From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize" Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:59:13 +0100 Message-ID: <003001c50a2a$d9d2c420$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: <87lla8xdps.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <878y65mnyz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107461448 21779 80.91.229.2 (3 Feb 2005 20:10:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Per Abrahamsen , drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 03 21:10:47 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwnJF-0003WT-NF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 21:10:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwnWd-0003f8-GU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:24:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwnUm-00035q-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:22:33 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwnUb-0002zl-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:22:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwnUZ-0002w1-9G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.9.106] (helo=av1-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cwn8W-00009o-1b; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:59:32 -0500 Original-Received: by av1-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5B95837E5D; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:59:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp1-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp1-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.178]) by av1-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D30F37E43; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:59:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t1o58p232.telia.com [62.20.164.232]) by smtp1-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ED75C38007; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:59:29 +0100 (CET) Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" , X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32838 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32838 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Monnier" > I think it'd be useful to add a warning/prompt when saving, along the lines > of "set outside customize: saving may not work". With such a warning, we > could drop the "changed outside customize" state (well: keep it internally, > of course, but not show it to the user) and still know that users won't be > surprised when things don't work. Would not this mean that you would get less overview and that you would often not get any warning until you tried to save or set that particular option?