From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: patch for Dired second header line info Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:44:19 -0800 Message-ID: <002801c87e30$243aea70$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <000101c87b38$1dcd2db0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com><87fxv9zxqv.fsf@jurta.org><000f01c87c3c$22f7db50$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com><87y791mess.fsf@jurta.org><002801c87c82$539474d0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com><002901c87c8d$c299c730$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com><87zlth7zwh.fsf@jurta.org> <003a01c87d7e$00749210$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204659981 22020 80.91.229.12 (4 Mar 2008 19:46:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 04 20:46:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JWd5Z-0001xu-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:46:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWd52-0004lQ-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:45:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWd4u-0004it-Pq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:45:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWd4t-0004gv-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:45:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWd4s-0004ge-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:45:30 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JWd4o-0000OP-RK; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:45:27 -0500 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m24JjFPf027996; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:45:16 -0700 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m249CU3v024673; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:45:15 -0700 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3599714241204659872; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:44:32 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.88.200) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:44:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach+HqMRqV7w9dGISxezdMoY0fy2vgADvd+A In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91312 Archived-At: > The tooltip also helps: > > "Files shown, total files in dir, Kbytes used in dir, > Kbytes available on disk [RET, mouse-2: more info]" > > Each number should have its own tooltip which explains that number > and not the others. Sorry; I don't agree. The meanings of the numbers are related (similar), at least in pairs. Four separate tooltips would be more an annoyance than a help, because the similarities and differences can't be grasped without a silly back-and-forth: 420: Number of files and subdirectories currently shown in directory 694: Number of files and subdirectories in directory, including hidden ones 19646: Kbytes used in directory 56456000: Kbytes available (free) on disk To understand 420 or 694, for instance, you would need to go back and forth between their tooltips, trying to remember what the non-displayed tooltip said while reading the displayed one, and comparing them mentally, in order to grasp the difference. Two tooltips, for the two pairs, might be reasonable, however. In any case, change it however you like.