From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Documentation for custom-file - is not (load custom-file) needed? Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:52:01 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01c4dd4e$b347a0e0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: <075b01c4d9a4$52799460$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <00bb01c4daee$5eb81350$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <200412051733.iB5HXIX13206@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <000001c4db1a$8d3770f0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <200412060046.iB60kZj15003@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <003e01c4db31$e45a2550$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <200412060402.iB6421q15173@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200412070539.iB75dV924747@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <03be01c4dcbf$139bfa30$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <200412080435.iB84ZvQ06453@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1102528423 4822 80.91.229.6 (8 Dec 2004 17:53:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, jpw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 18:53:37 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cc60O-00006R-00 for ; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:53:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cc6AF-0003nY-Ea for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:03:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Cc6A1-0003mM-HG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Cc6A0-0003lh-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cc69z-0003l9-8e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:03:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.107] (helo=av1-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cc5za-0006g9-E8; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:52:47 -0500 Original-Received: by av1-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6A55E37EEF; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:52:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.163]) by av1-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B79B37E7C; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:52:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t5o58p154.telia.com [195.67.196.154]) by smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CA19A37E50; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:52:42 +0100 (CET) Original-To: "Luc Teirlinck" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:30870 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:30870 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luc Teirlinck" > It does not appear to me that your reply addresses the following > argument I made previously: Hi Luc, Sorry, I might have missed this. I do think in the same lines as you below. I answered to Juris proposal in another message. There I said that things like this could come after release. I see no problem with that if we use Juri's approach. - Lennart > On second thought, I start doubting the utility of the feature you are > proposing. One of the main reasons to have a custom file is to have > different custom files for different versions of Emacs. Those > versions share .emacs. So Custom should not write anything into > .emacs of the type you are proposing, since the custom file usually is > version dependent and .emacs is version independent. > > If Custom is to write anything in .emacs, it should allow the user to > specify different custom files for different ranges of Emacs versions > and write a `cond' form into .emacs of the type below. That might be > useful, but I believe we should wait with that until after the release. ... > `custom-file' according to the Emacs version (maybe using an alist),