From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: position on changing defaults? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:34:06 -0800 Message-ID: <001c01c87ed6$59e3c6a0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204731429 22010 80.91.229.12 (5 Mar 2008 15:37:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:37:09 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Miles Bader'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 05 16:37:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JWvfj-0007ND-Vu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:36:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWvfC-0007d6-GQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWvdt-0006yP-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:34:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWvdr-0006xl-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:34:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWvdr-0006xQ-6O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:34:51 -0500 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JWvdm-0003Bt-Sc; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:34:47 -0500 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m25FYiJA016001; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:34:44 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m25BJmjO010142; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:34:44 -0700 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3600285271204731242; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:34:02 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.74.81) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:34:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ach+juTZQUXn7kFYTtGX7vR2sMal8gARRkpg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91386 Archived-At: > > Here are some examples of changes that could be made: > > - transient-mark, selection with Shift-arrow keys > > > > - show-paren-mode on by default > > - iswitchb-mode on by default > > - bind ibuffer to C-x C-b > > - hide-ifdef-mode on by default for C/C++/objc > > - flyspell-mode on by default for text-mode > > I think most of those are fairly innocuous, but iswitchb-mode > is not -- > it changes a familiar and simple interface to something radically > different that will very likely confuse newcomers and annoy > old-timers. > Making that the default would be a mistake. So are we discussing these now? Dan said no - and I agree. If we were discussing them, then my vote would be `no' to iswitchb-mode and ibuffer as C-x C-b.