From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Isearch in dired Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:13:28 -0800 Message-ID: <001601c944d9$385052f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87zlk90yjb.fsf@cyd.mit.edu><87ljvssrkb.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzadzxdi.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226502842 7596 80.91.229.12 (12 Nov 2008 15:14:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Juri Linkov' , 'Chong Yidong' , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Ren=E9_Kyllingstad'?=" , "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 12 16:15:01 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L0HQi-0003pX-FT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:14:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40751 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L0HPa-00009g-6Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:13:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L0HPT-00008N-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:13:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L0HPR-00007f-4q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:13:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41181 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L0HPQ-00007c-To for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:13:32 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:22440) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L0HPP-0004Bx-3k; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:13:31 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mACFDGiU006644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:13:17 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt706.oracle.com (acsmt706.oracle.com [141.146.40.84]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mACFDYXt010596; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:13:35 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.23.165.218) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:13:21 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AclEvjKWSBP9b4jvQi6ckWOPogwArQAFwtiw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt706.oracle.com [141.146.40.84] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010207.491AF294.0097:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105601 Archived-At: > As a side note to this: what about Rob Giardinas patch to merge dired > details into dired? Toggling between displaying just the > filenames and the full ls -l details makes it very clear what is > being searched, and it's also nice for other reasons. > > The patch was sent 2007-07-22 with subject "[rob giardina.us: > dired-details merged into dired]" > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/75275 > > As far as I can see, nobody has posted review comments for > the patch. Is it just too ugly? Too incomplete? > Not an attractive feature? > > The only annoyance I have with dired-details.el is that M-w copies the > hidden part too, which is not what I expect. I'm using a horrible > buffer-substring-filters hack to prevent that locally (don't > see how to do it properly without switching from overlays to > text properties). I agree it should be added, and I've brought that up several times now, with no response. The last time was 2008-07-24. I brought it up also in the context of searching for filenames. With details hidden, search in Dired searches only among file names. Personally, I use dired-details with the details hidden 95% of the time. I use a separate frame per buffer and automatically fit the frame to the buffer, so removing Dired details saves a lot of real estate. If I ever want to search something other than file names, I just hit a key to toggle display of the details. No big deal. Why hasn't this been added? There seemed to be agreement that it should be. Wrt Isearch in Dired: This was discussed thoroughly over a year ago. FWIW, my opinion about it was expressed here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-08/msg00518.html