From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Usability suggestion : completion for M-: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:50:22 -0700 Message-ID: <000801c88785$d3ddfcc0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87ejaei4iz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87hcf7r7vl.fsf@jurta.org> <003001c886f5$366f4330$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> <47DC5F1B.8070003@gmail.com> <000601c8873d$7625c240$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> <47DD121D.60000@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205686308 18187 80.91.229.12 (16 Mar 2008 16:51:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Juri Linkov' , 'Chong Yidong' , 'paul r' , 'emacs- devel' To: "'Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 16 17:52:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jaw5b-0000WT-SK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:52:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jaw52-0000cS-Al for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jaw4x-0000bd-VJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jaw4w-0000ad-Sm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jaw4w-0000aQ-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:22 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jaw4w-0004oG-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:22 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m2GGpIIO000381; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:51:18 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m2GGP0pr003174; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:51:17 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3614416751205686210; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:50:10 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.88.54) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:50:09 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciHYUk3dYz5+0BEQ9qft81MnFxWQAAG4EBg In-Reply-To: <47DD121D.60000@gmail.com> X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92751 Archived-At: > > I said, "M-TAB or ESC TAB". > > I noticed, but I find ESC TAB quite a bit inconvenient for > such a common operation as completion. So use C-M-i. Or bind some other key. TAB, if you like. I don't see a general argument for changing the default behavior. > >> - TAB is rather commonly used for completion (for example > >> when reading file names in Emacs, in shells, hacks to use > >> TAB for completions in Emacs are seen as positive by some > >> Emacs users) > > > > Did you read what I wrote? TAB can be used for some other, > > better completion in M-: than symbol completion - completion > > that would be consistent with other minibuffer completion > > (complete the whole input, then RET to enter). > > Sorry, I missed that part. Do you mean adding closing > parenthesis? Then it could be combined I believe. The possibility along these lines that I mentioned is to use TAB the same way you use it in a Lisp buffer. And to, in general, make it easier to use M-: for an arbitrary Lisp sexp. That means having TAB, C-M-q, etc. have their normal Lisp mode bindings. What's good for Lisp mode is good for M-:, and that includes TAB.