From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ben Key" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: visible system caret no longer working in ms windows Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:00:11 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <000801c27af8$b5482f00$6401a8c0@GODDESS> References: Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035421363 10299 80.91.224.249 (24 Oct 2002 01:02:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 01:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 184WOY-0002fs-00 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:02:42 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 184WQU-00063z-00 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:04:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 184WN6-0003jg-00; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:01:12 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 184WMC-00035t-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:00:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 184WM9-0002wW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:00:15 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.1.34]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 184WM8-0002Qv-00; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from GODDESS (6535194hfc48.tampabay.rr.com [65.35.194.48]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g9O100Ml026467; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: "'Jason Rumney'" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8708 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8708 But first make sure you can reproduce what the problem is in the current version. I am not sure that it is easy to spot without specific accessibility software installed on your system that relies on tracking the system caret. I have been able to reproduce this problem. The company I work for, Freedom Scientific, is the developer of several accessibility products, including the screen reader JAWS. Since I am one of the developers of JAWS, I am in an excellent position to test the system caret support. I am more than willing to devote quite some time in the evenings at home to resolve this problem. My vision is failing and I am beginning to actually need to use JAWS (I have been helping to develop it for four years now but until about 6 months ago when my vision started getting much worse I never even used it other than the bare minimum to test my work!). One thing I really an having problems with now is that JAWS does not work with Emacs very well, so I am having to rely on other editors when eye strain causes me to have to rely on JAWS. Therefore I am highly motivated to resolve this problem as soon as possible.