From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: RE: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:06:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000101c89cae$db3b5380$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <003801c89a85$fcd95ad0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <008d01c89b26$8aacebb0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208012916 5087 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 15:08:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 17:09:09 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JkhLn-0004Ww-Mc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:09:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkhL9-0005Wn-I0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:08:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkhL3-0005TQ-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:08:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkhL1-0005Oh-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:08:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkhL1-0005OS-9G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkhL0-0001Fc-UA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JkhL0-0003Yj-PS for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:08:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkhKv-0001Do-7V for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:08:18 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkhKm-00018u-FH; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m3CF7s8S009985; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:07:54 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m3C9AqSO017682; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:07:54 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3648154261208012815; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:06:55 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.64.225) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:06:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcicMbju3h75PWoXRQ6QA8ogyvT5ygAery8A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95055 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21991 Archived-At: > Just because a decision was made long ago does not mean > that it is the right decision now or even that it was > the right decision then. > > That is true, but it is also true that if we keep reopening questions > decided long ago, we will make our lives very difficult and probably > make little progress. We have to leave well enough alone for the old > features most of the time, in order to have time to add the > new features we know we want. I did not keep reopening this. I simply submitted a bug report. You, on the other hand, have succeeded completely in hijacking this thread and turning it into exactly what you complained about - a useless, abstract, back-and-forth. This is _your_ discussion, not mine. You are the one wasting time. I have not contributed at all to your hijacked discussion (for which you didn't even bother to change the subject line). I only presented some arguments about the bug report, and let it go at that. Those arguments, and the bug report, have successfully been drowned by the tumor you grafted onto the thread. Bravo - `report-emacs-bug' now results in a flurry of crap.