Hi Kim, I'm writing in relation to defcustom Info-hide-note-references t in lisp/info.el a9efebd0ba1 (Kim 2002-11-01 306) (defcustom Info-hide-note-references t because it's a bad default to proper info documentation as said in (texinfo) @ref documentation https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/_0040ref.html ,--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 6.6 @ref | @ref is nearly the same as @xref except that it does not generate a ‘See’ | in the printed output, just the reference itself. | This makes it useful as the last part of a sentence. | | For example, | | For more information, @pxref{This}, and @ref{That}. | produces in Info: | (*)| For more information, *note This::, and *note That::. | and in printed output: | | For more information, see Section 1.1 [This], page 1, and Section 1.2 [That], page 2. `--------------------------------------------------------------------------- but with current info.el default in emacs shows (*)| For more information, see [This]., and see [That]. ( A part that with only two examples (texinfo) @ref it's not very clear that there are three cases: @ref @xref @pxref ) As I intended it, the second "see" should absolutely not be present, Info-hide-note-references is already customize-able to nil(=compliant) or hide(my preference), but the current default of t is(seem to me) not at all as designed in texinfo, for example python info documentation was plenty of misplaced ``See`` ... ``.`` (which is the reason I looked into the origin of the problem) and found it: @ref should have not a processing for info that add "See" as should while processing @xref, than the pxref is to distinguish printed rendering. I will not insist over this trivial change, if ever you disagree you can also ignore the request Cheers, Marco Munari -- x(t),y(t) = th(3t-34.5)*e^[-(3t-34.5)^2]/2-4.3+e^(-1.8/t^2)/(.8*atg(t- 3)+2)(t-1.8)-.3th(5t-42.5),(1.4e^[-(3t-34.5)^2]+1-sgn[|t-8.5|-.5]*1.5* |sin(pi*t)|^[2e^(-(t-11.5)^2)+.5+e^(-(.6t-3.3)^2)])/(.5+t)+1 ; 0