From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Munari Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46082: acknowledged by developer (control message for bug #46082) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 07:37:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87eegy6gtv.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn0i7i04.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26087"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: 46082@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 08 08:45:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lJAZk-0006aW-TY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 08:45:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52482 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJAZj-0007hV-56 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 02:45:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJAZa-0007h6-60 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 02:45:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJAZZ-0007Dc-US for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 02:45:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJAZZ-0007pB-RW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 02:45:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Marco Munari Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 07:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46082 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 46082-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46082.161518946530011 (code B ref 46082); Mon, 08 Mar 2021 07:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46082) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2021 07:44:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41992 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJAYw-0007nv-EB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 02:44:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fastcode.eu ([45.79.166.47]:49120 helo=nj1.fastcode.eu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lJ9WS-0006AB-Vy for 46082@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 01:37:45 -0500 Original-Received: from nb (127.10.132.1 [127.10.132.1]) by nj1.fastcode.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id bd8aba1f; Mon, 8 Mar 2021 01:37:11 -0500 (EST) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAOBAMAAADUAYG5AAAAMFBMVEVmLnCAgn+EhoOIioeNj4yRk5CYmpefoZ6jpaKpq6ivsa62uLS6vLnBw8DJy8h7fXrqFMmXAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAABsSURBVAjXY2BgYODsZICAGeUQmntaAYRxOwxC8x4xgDDuOPHuaGBLZeC71nU7LKJiJsO7jvAlRuZlDQx3SyKVVMVLgWq3TZafVCTAwMCzK/DDSnmgpjPL7TkbPwAZd6c7lBuBjDnbytASAKQBe1ofD2Lqno4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 02:44:20 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:201809 Archived-At: On Mon, 01 Mar 2021 22:10:03 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: >>From: Marco Munari >>Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2021 20:22:58 +0100 >> >>read the rendered manual page with attention >>(I described at the beginning of the initial bug report >>the problem in the line marked with (*)) >> >>python and even perl info manuals uses a lot of @ref (according >>to the way texinfo does and describe its functionality) >>resulting a lot of inappropriate See making the references surrounded >>by nonsense "see ... dot(.)", but the problem emerges in the exact page >>of texinfo describing how @ref should work, showing that it doesnt. >> >>Anyway as required an example on how python manual looks, >>here there is a random section (Note the "see" are simply misleading. >>My fix removes the default misbehaviour for "see", >>but the dot(.) after the node description remains): >I have difficulty understanding the problem, and thus the proposed >solution. I think the difficulty stems from the fact that you didn't >show the Texinfo source of the Info output which you posted. Without >that, it's hard to decide whether the problem is with Emacs, or with >Texinfo's 'makeinfo', or with the original Texinfo source as authored >by whoever wrote those manuals (which are not Emacs manuals). >So please show the Texinfo sources of these snippets. >Thanks. I noticed that when I copy and yank from an info buffer to gnus it keept showing what the info buffers shown, but it didn't remain the same on sending the email, so I didn't send previously the intended info rendering (which renders worse than what I sent out). Instead of "*note" (sent in the previous email) info shows "see" and adds a dot So for example (python)Expression input is rendered with info.el in user reading phase as: | See eval(). is used for expression input. It ignores leading | whitespace. The string argument to see eval(). must have the | following form: from the python.info source | *note eval(): ca8. is used for expression input. It ignores leading | whitespace. The string argument to *note eval(): ca8. must have the | following form: which is from the texi input from texinfo | @ref{ca8,,eval()} is used for expression input. It ignores leading white= space. The | string argument to @ref{ca8,,eval()} must have the following form: produced in cpython git source with the command sphinx-build -b texinfo -d build/doctrees . build/texinfo more details in https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ExternalDocumentation to see the source of texinfo add two repro steps (3 and 4) 1. info C-h i 2. got to node g (texinfo)@ref (now with the cursor in the buffer rendered by info of texinfo CWD is good) 3. open file from CWD C-x f 4. the texinfo source textinfo.info-1.gz (use tab, I had it here in (arch)linux) 5. search a piece C-s is nearly the same as and there are other source chunks for example, repored after my signature Cheers, MARco --=20 x(t),y(t) =3D th(3t-34.5)*e^[-(3t-34.5)^2]/2-4.3+e^(-1.8/t^2)/(.8*atg(t- 3)+2)(t-1.8)-.3th(5t-42.5),(1.4e^[-(3t-34.5)^2]+1-sgn[|t-8.5|-.5]*1.5* |sin(pi*t)|^[2e^(-(t-11.5)^2)+.5+e^(-(.6t-3.3)^2)])/(.5+t)+1 ; 0