* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
@ 2011-06-08 21:48 nyc4bos
2011-06-08 23:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: nyc4bos @ 2011-06-08 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
When trying to use Gnus with the (presumably) builtin gnutls
functionality on Windows
(using the binaries graciously built by Sean) I get the error:
Opening connection to imap.aim.com via tls...
Unable to open server nnimap+aol due to: Symbol's function definition is void: gnutls-boot
Opening nnimap server on aol...failed:
I have the DLL libgnutls-26.dll in my PATH as well as in `exec-path`.
I specified:
(require 'gnutls)
before starting Gnus.
Eval'ing the expression:
(eval-expression (quote (fboundp (quote open-gnutls-stream))) nil)
t
gives `t'.
I tried the simple test specified in `gnutls.el':
(require 'gnutls)
(open-gnutls-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
gnutls-negotiate(:process #<process tls> :type gnutls-x509pki :hostname "imap.aim.com")
open-gnutls-stream("tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
eval((open-gnutls-stream "tls-" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps") nil)
eval-last-sexp-1(t)
eval-last-sexp(t)
eval-print-last-sexp()
call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
recursive-edit()
debug(error (void-function gnutls-boot))
I did get a `process-list':
tls open tls-buffer -- (network connection to imap.aim.com)
I also got an ESTALISHED TCP connection:
TCP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:4151 205.188.58.10:993 ESTABLISHED
[Aside: Hopefully, we will continue to be able to use the external gnutls-cli
if we wish when `(require 'gnutls)' is NOT specified (or a variable to
the same effect) even when Emacs 24.1 is released. Thanks.]
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2011-06-06 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/build/include'
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: en_US
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: cp1252
default enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Group
Minor modes in effect:
gnus-undo-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> C-x b <return> C-v C-v
C-v ^ q C-r d a d a C-p C-p C-p SPC C-n SPC C-n C-n
SPC C-p C-p C-p C-p SPC C-p SPC <return> Q y q y C-n
C-n C-n C-n C-n C-SPC <escape> > C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p
C-p C-p C-n C-n C-w C-v C-n C-n C-n C-n C-x b <return>
C-x b <return> <escape> x g n u s <return> <return>
<return> SPC SPC SPC <backspace> T C-g t SPC SPC <escape>
x t e d SPC s SPC <return> n SPC SPC SPC <backspace>
SPC <escape> x t e d - s p <tab> <return> C-x o <escape>
< C-x o Q y C-s g m C-n C-n C-n C-n SPC q q y <help-echo>
<help-echo> <escape> : l i b p n <tab> <return> <escape>
x l i s t SPC p r o c SPC <return> <escape> x l i s
t SPC b u f SPC <return> C-x b * g n <tab> <return>
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-x 1 <escape>
x g n u s <return> <return> <return> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar>
<help-menu> <send-emacs-bug-report>
Recent messages:
nnimap read 286k
nnimap read 288k
nnimap read 289k
nnimap read 290k
nnimap read 293k
nnimap read 294k
nnimap read 298k
Reading active file from archive+nnfolder+archive:posts via nnfolder...done
Reading active file via nndraft...done
Checking new news...done
Load-path shadows:
None found.
Features:
(shadow emacsbug tabulated-list gnus-html gnus-dup mule-util sort
gnus-cite smiley ansi-color mail-extr gnus-bcklg gnus-async qp gnus-ml
re-builder multi-isearch nndraft nnmh nndoc utf-7 rfc2104 nnagent nnml
nnimap utf7 nnfolder parse-time rot13 netrc network-stream gnus-agent
gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu
mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig nntp gnus-cache offlineimap
google-weather url-cache google-maps google-maps-static
google-maps-geocode google-maps-base json pcmpl-ssh executable pcomplete
jabber jabber-libnotify dbus jabber-awesome jabber-osd jabber-wmii
jabber-xmessage jabber-festival jabber-sawfish jabber-ratpoison
jabber-screen jabber-socks5 jabber-ft-server jabber-si-server
jabber-ft-client jabber-ft-common jabber-si-client jabber-si-common
jabber-feature-neg jabber-truncate jabber-time jabber-autoaway
jabber-vcard-avatars jabber-chatstates jabber-events jabber-vcard
jabber-avatar jabber-activity jabber-watch jabber-modeline
jabber-ahc-presence jabber-ahc jabber-version jabber-ourversion
jabber-muc-nick-completion hippie-exp comint ring jabber-browse
jabber-search jabber-register jabber-roster jabber-presence jabber-muc
jabber-muc-nick-coloring hexrgb jabber-newdisco jabber-widget
jabber-disco jabber-chat jabber-history jabber-chatbuffer jabber-alert
jabber-iq jabber-core jabber-console sgml-mode ewoc jabber-keymap
jabber-sasl sasl sasl-anonymous sasl-login sasl-plain fsm jabber-logon
jabber-conn srv dns starttls tls jabber-xml xml jabber-menu
jabber-autoloads jabber-util epa-file epa derived epg epg-config sieve
sieve-mode sieve-manage nnir gnus-sum gnus-group mm-url url url-proxy
url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-util
url-parse auth-source eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv
macroexp assoc password-cache url-vars mailcap gnus-undo nnmail
mail-source gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message format-spec
rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win gnus
gnus-ems nnoo nnheader gnus-util time-date mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils
help-mode view pcase advice advice-preload pager w3m-search w3m help-fns
browse-url doc-view easymenu jka-compr dired regexp-opt image-mode
timezone w3m-hist w3m-fb bookmark-w3m w3m-ems w3m-ccl ccl w3m-favicon
w3m-image w3m-proc w3m-util wid-edit w3m-wget server easy-mmode cl
edmacro kmacro paren tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel
dos-w32 disp-table ls-lisp w32-win w32-vars tool-bar dnd fontset image
fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham
georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic
indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple
abbrev minibuffer button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay
sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process multi-tty emacs)
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-08 21:48 bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows nyc4bos
@ 2011-06-08 23:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-09 7:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-10 20:37 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-11 1:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-08 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nyc4bos; +Cc: 8825
> I tried the simple test specified in `gnutls.el':
>
> (require 'gnutls)
> (open-gnutls-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
> gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
[...etc...]
That's weird. I have a build from the trunk, and evaling the lines
above gets me a message
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) GnuTLS library loaded: libgnutls-26.dll
and a tls-buffer buffer with
* OK IMAP4 ready
In your case, does (require 'gnutls) generate the "library loaded" message?
Juanma
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-08 23:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-06-09 7:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-09 9:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2011-06-09 7:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: nyc4bos, 8825
> From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 01:39:57 +0200
> Cc: 8825@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > I tried the simple test specified in `gnutls.el':
> >
> > (require 'gnutls)
> > (open-gnutls-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
> >
> > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
> > gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
> [...etc...]
>
> That's weird. I have a build from the trunk, and evaling the lines
> above gets me a message
>
> gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) GnuTLS library loaded: libgnutls-26.dll
>
> and a tls-buffer buffer with
>
> * OK IMAP4 ready
Is this your own build or Sean's build? If the former, perhaps there
was some problem with Sean's binaries.
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-09 7:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2011-06-09 9:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-09 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: nyc4bos, 8825
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 09:38, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> Is this your own build or Sean's build? If the former, perhaps there
> was some problem with Sean's binaries.
My own.
Juanma
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-08 21:48 bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows nyc4bos
2011-06-08 23:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-06-10 20:37 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-14 23:28 ` nyc4bos
2011-06-11 1:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-06-10 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
nyc4bos@aol.com writes:
I have the DLL libgnutls-26.dll in my PATH as well as in `exec-path`.
Does the `26' refer to the version? The binary is built against
gnutls.h of version 2.10.
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-08 21:48 bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows nyc4bos
2011-06-08 23:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-10 20:37 ` Sean Sieger
@ 2011-06-11 1:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-06-11 1:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nyc4bos; +Cc: 8825
(second try to post this, Gmane ate the first one)
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:48:00 -0400 nyc4bos@aol.com wrote:
n> [Aside: Hopefully, we will continue to be able to use the external gnutls-cli
n> if we wish when `(require 'gnutls)' is NOT specified (or a variable to
n> the same effect) even when Emacs 24.1 is released. Thanks.]
I'm not sure if that's a good idea. We've had many, many reports over
the years of I/O and stability problems with that setup in Gnus
(especially on W32). I'm not strongly opposed to it, but think it's
counterproductive in the long run. `gnutls-cli' is just a simple
wrapper around GnuTLS, so the Emacs support for GnuTLS should be fixed
if it's missing features `gnutls-cli' has.
Can you please follow up about this on emacs-devel? It's worth a
discussion there; within this bug I fear many people would miss it.
Ted
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-10 20:37 ` Sean Sieger
@ 2011-06-14 23:28 ` nyc4bos
2011-06-15 0:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-15 15:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: nyc4bos @ 2011-06-14 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
Sean Sieger <sean.sieger@gmail.com> writes:
> nyc4bos@aol.com writes:
>
> I have the DLL libgnutls-26.dll in my PATH as well as in `exec-path`.
>
> Does the `26' refer to the version? The binary is built against
> gnutls.h of version 2.10.
This DLL is from gnutls-2.10.1.zip which was obtained from
http://josefsson.org/gnutls4win. This is the location you are
sent to when you click on the "windows" link on the page
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnutls.
Inside the ZIP file, among other files, is libgnutls-26.dll.
I also tried the previous version, gnutls-2.10.0.zip, which is the
one I think you said you had, with the same result.
Both gnutls.h files from 2.10.1 and 2.10.0 were identical except
for:
#define GNUTLS_VERSION
#define GNUTLS_VERSION_PATCH
#define GNUTLS_VERSION_NUMBER
I'm begining to think that the problem is in the way that gnutls
is called and/or its error handling.
When I try the test from the *scratch* buffer:
(require 'gnutls)
gnutls
(open-gnutls-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
I get the *Backtrace* error:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
gnutls-negotiate(:process #<process tls> :type gnutls-x509pki :hostname "imap.aim.com")
open-gnutls-stream("tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
eval((open-gnutls-stream "tls-" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps") nil)
eval-last-sexp-1(t)
eval-last-sexp(t)
eval-print-last-sexp()
call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
recursive-edit()
debug(error (void-function gnutls-boot))
But I do get the 'tls-buffer' and a TCP ESTABLISHED connection:
I did get in `process-list':
tls open tls-buffer -- (network connection to imap.aim.com)
I also got an ESTALISHED TCP connection:
TCP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:4151 205.188.58.10:993 ESTABLISHED
The `tls-buffer' is empty for a while and then when it timesout it
contains:
Process tls connection broken by remote peer
Gnus gets the same "void: gnutls-boot" error:
Opening nnimap server on aol...
Opening connection to imap.aim.com via tls...
Unable to open server nnimap+aol due to: Symbol's function definition is void: gnutls-boot
Opening nnimap server on aol...failed:
Is it the handshaking that is failing?
I turned on debugging '(setq gnutls-log-level 1)' but got no debugging
information in the *Messages* buffer.
Juanma said he successfully built Emacs 24 on Windows and was able
to test builtin gnutls.
Juanma:
Are you using the libgnutls-26.dll in gnutls-2.10.1.zip (or
gnutls-2.10.0.zip) from http://josefsson.org/gnutls4win?
Are you linking, explicitly, to a gnutls library when building?
Does libgnutls-26.dll show up when you do the equivalent of ldd
on the emacs.exe binary?
Sean's build is implicitly/dynamically using libgnutls-26.dll.
I believe he only has the gnutls.h file and not any other file
from the gnutls-2.10.0.zip archive.
The variable `dynamic-library-alist' shows:
Value: ((xpm "libxpm.dll" "xpm4.dll" "libXpm-nox4.dll")
(png "libpng14-14.dll" "libpng14.dll")
(jpeg "jpeg62.dll" "libjpeg.dll" "jpeg-62.dll" "jpeg.dll")
(tiff "libtiff3.dll" "libtiff.dll")
(gif "giflib4.dll" "libungif4.dll" "libungif.dll")
(svg "librsvg-2-2.dll")
(gdk-pixbuf "libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-0.dll")
(glib "libglib-2.0-0.dll")
(gobject "libgobject-2.0-0.dll")
(gnutls "libgnutls-26.dll"))
I'm on Windows XP, if it matters.
Thanks.
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-14 23:28 ` nyc4bos
@ 2011-06-15 0:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-15 15:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-15 0:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nyc4bos; +Cc: 8825
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 01:28, <nyc4bos@aol.com> wrote:
> Juanma:
>
> Are you using the libgnutls-26.dll in gnutls-2.10.1.zip (or
> gnutls-2.10.0.zip) from http://josefsson.org/gnutls4win?
The one in gnutls-2.10.1.zip, from that URL.
> Are you linking, explicitly, to a gnutls library when building?
No.
> Does libgnutls-26.dll show up when you do the equivalent of ldd
> on the emacs.exe binary?
On startup, no. Once I invoke GnuTLS, the following libraries get loaded:
libgcrypt-11.dll
libgnutls-26.dll
libgpg-error-0.dll
libtasn1-3.dll
> Sean's build is implicitly/dynamically using libgnutls-26.dll.
Yes, I know.
> I believe he only has the gnutls.h file and not any other file
> from the gnutls-2.10.0.zip archive.
I think gnutls/gnutls.h and gnutls/compat.h are required.
> The variable `dynamic-library-alist' shows:
> (gnutls "libgnutls-26.dll"))
Yes, but note that does not mean that libgnutls-26.dll is the only
required DLL. It means that it is the only one that Emacs tries to
load dynamically. Any DLLs required by libgnutls-26.dll have to be in
the path, too.
> I'm on Windows XP, if it matters.
It shouldn't, though I'm not ready to bet on it ;-)
Juanma
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-14 23:28 ` nyc4bos
2011-06-15 0:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-06-15 15:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-15 21:37 ` nyc4bos
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-06-15 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nyc4bos; +Cc: 8825
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:28:37 -0400 nyc4bos@aol.com wrote:
n> I'm begining to think that the problem is in the way that gnutls
n> is called and/or its error handling.
n> When I try the test from the *scratch* buffer:
n> (require 'gnutls)
n> gnutls
n> (open-gnutls-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
n> I get the *Backtrace* error:
n> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
n> gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
n> gnutls-negotiate(:process #<process tls> :type gnutls-x509pki :hostname "imap.aim.com")
n> open-gnutls-stream("tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
n> eval((open-gnutls-stream "tls-" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps") nil)
n> eval-last-sexp-1(t)
n> eval-last-sexp(t)
n> eval-print-last-sexp()
n> call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
n> recursive-edit()
n> debug(error (void-function gnutls-boot))
n> But I do get the 'tls-buffer' and a TCP ESTABLISHED connection:
n> I did get in `process-list':
n> tls open tls-buffer -- (network connection to imap.aim.com)
n> I also got an ESTALISHED TCP connection:
n> TCP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:4151 205.188.58.10:993 ESTABLISHED
This is not a GnuTLS bug, but a missing `gnutls-boot'. I think that
will only happen if Emacs is compiled without the --with-gnutls
configure option.
Ted
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-15 15:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-06-15 21:37 ` nyc4bos
2011-06-17 21:42 ` Sean Sieger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: nyc4bos @ 2011-06-15 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:28:37 -0400 nyc4bos@aol.com wrote:
>
> n> I'm begining to think that the problem is in the way that gnutls
> n> is called and/or its error handling.
>
> n> When I try the test from the *scratch* buffer:
>
> n> (require 'gnutls)
> n> gnutls
> n> (open-gnutls-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
>
> n> I get the *Backtrace* error:
>
> n> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
> n> gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
> n> gnutls-negotiate(:process #<process tls> :type gnutls-x509pki :hostname "imap.aim.com")
> n> open-gnutls-stream("tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
> n> eval((open-gnutls-stream "tls-" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps") nil)
> n> eval-last-sexp-1(t)
> n> eval-last-sexp(t)
> n> eval-print-last-sexp()
> n> call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
> n> recursive-edit()
> n> debug(error (void-function gnutls-boot))
>
> n> But I do get the 'tls-buffer' and a TCP ESTABLISHED connection:
>
> n> I did get in `process-list':
>
> n> tls open tls-buffer -- (network connection to imap.aim.com)
>
> n> I also got an ESTALISHED TCP connection:
>
> n> TCP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:4151 205.188.58.10:993 ESTABLISHED
>
> This is not a GnuTLS bug, but a missing `gnutls-boot'. I think that
> will only happen if Emacs is compiled without the --with-gnutls
> configure option.
Sean,
Could you build Emacs with the "--with-gnutls" configure option?
I don't seem to see it specified in your build:
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2011-06-13 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/build/include'
Thanks.
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-15 21:37 ` nyc4bos
@ 2011-06-17 21:42 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-17 22:00 ` Sean Sieger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-06-17 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
nyc4bos@aol.com writes:
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> This is not a GnuTLS bug, but a missing `gnutls-boot'. I think that
> will only happen if Emacs is compiled without the --with-gnutls
> configure option.
Sean,
Could you build Emacs with the "--with-gnutls" configure option?
I don't seem to see it specified in your build:
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2011-06-13 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags
-Ic:/build/include'
Thanks.
from nyc4bos@aol.com
to Sean Sieger <sean.sieger@gmail.com>
date Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:34 PM
subject Re: bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on
Windows
mailed-by aol.com
hide details 2:34 PM (3 hours ago)
Hi Sean,
Could you compile Emacs with the "--with-gnutls" configure
option?
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8825#35
Thanks for your efforts!
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-17 21:42 ` Sean Sieger
@ 2011-06-17 22:00 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-18 16:47 ` nyc4bos
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-06-17 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
Could you compile Emacs with the "--with-gnutls" configure
option?
Emacs-24 supports GnuTLS by default; runtime is different, the GnuTLS
binaries are needed.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-17 22:00 ` Sean Sieger
@ 2011-06-18 16:47 ` nyc4bos
2011-06-19 0:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: nyc4bos @ 2011-06-18 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
Sean Sieger <sean.sieger@gmail.com> writes:
> Could you compile Emacs with the "--with-gnutls" configure
> option?
>
> Emacs-24 supports GnuTLS by default; runtime is different, the GnuTLS
> binaries are needed.
I have the GnuTLS binaries and they are in my PATH and Emacs'
`exec-path'.
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:28:37 -0400 nyc4bos@aol.com wrote:
> This is not a GnuTLS bug, but a missing `gnutls-boot'. I think that
> will only happen if Emacs is compiled without the --with-gnutls
> configure option.
Ted seems to indicate that "--with-gnutls" is necessary.
What do I need to do to be able to use the builtin GnuTLS in
Emacs?
Can anyone tell me how do I debug this and/or how to pass along
the necessary information needed to track this down?
The steps I followed are in my previous post.
Here is the *Backtrace* error again:
> n> I get the *Backtrace* error:
>
> n> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
> n> gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
> n> gnutls-negotiate(:process #<process tls> :type gnutls-x509pki :hostname "imap.aim.com")
> n> open-gnutls-stream("tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
> n> eval((open-gnutls-stream "tls-" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps") nil)
> n> eval-last-sexp-1(t)
> n> eval-last-sexp(t)
> n> eval-print-last-sexp()
> n> call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
> n> recursive-edit()
> n> debug(error (void-function gnutls-boot))
Thanks.
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-18 16:47 ` nyc4bos
@ 2011-06-19 0:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-19 2:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-20 23:22 ` nyc4bos
0 siblings, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-19 0:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nyc4bos; +Cc: 8825
> Ted seems to indicate that "--with-gnutls" is necessary.
Not on Windows. configure.bat tests for gnutls/gnutls.h and enables
GnuTLS if found. There's the option --without-gnutls to disable that
check.
>> n> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
>> n> gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
That backtrace means that the executable you are using wasn't compiled
with GnuTLS support. Apparently Sean's binary tarballs (including
emacs-20110613-bin-i386.zip) are built without it.
Juanma
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 0:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-06-19 2:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-19 3:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-20 23:22 ` nyc4bos
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-06-19 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: nyc4bos, 8825
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 02:13:38 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ted seems to indicate that "--with-gnutls" is necessary.
JB> Not on Windows. configure.bat tests for gnutls/gnutls.h and enables
JB> GnuTLS if found. There's the option --without-gnutls to disable that
JB> check.
n> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
n> gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL"
n> :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles
n> nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil
n> :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
JB> That backtrace means that the executable you are using wasn't compiled
JB> with GnuTLS support. Apparently Sean's binary tarballs (including
JB> emacs-20110613-bin-i386.zip) are built without it.
Sorry if I've confused anyone. I don't use W32 Emacs builds so I'm not
too knowledgeable about DLLs and bindings. I am 100% sure, however,
that if `gnutls-boot' is a void function, this means that Emacs was
compiled without HAVE_GNUTLS. That's what Juanma is saying too.
My understanding is that all the DLL function calls happen when calling
the GnuTLS API, but `gnutls-boot' is in src/gnutls.c and thus can't be
missing because of a DLL. `gnutls-boot' will in turns call the GnuTLS
API, which are all the wrapped fn_gnutls_* functions,
e.g. `fn_gnutls_init'. *Those* functions are in the GnuTLS DLLs.
I hope that's helpful.
Ted
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 2:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-06-19 3:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-19 10:59 ` Sean Sieger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-19 3:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Zlatanov; +Cc: nyc4bos, 8825
2011/6/19 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>:
> I am 100% sure, however,
> that if `gnutls-boot' is a void function, this means that Emacs was
> compiled without HAVE_GNUTLS. That's what Juanma is saying too.
Yes, that's what's happening here. I compiled the trunk without GnuTLS
support and I get the exact same error as the OP:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL"
:hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil
:keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil
:verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
gnutls-negotiate(:process #<process tls> :type gnutls-x509pki
:hostname "imap.aim.com")
open-gnutls-stream("tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
eval((open-gnutls-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps") nil)
eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
eval-last-sexp(nil)
call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)
vs. the following error when the DLL is not found:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "GnuTLS not available")
gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL"
:hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil
:keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil
:verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
gnutls-negotiate(:process #<process tls> :type gnutls-x509pki
:hostname "imap.aim.com")
open-gnutls-stream("tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps")
eval((open-gnutls-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "imap.aim.com" "imaps") nil)
eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
eval-last-sexp(nil)
call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)
Juanma
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 3:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-06-19 10:59 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-19 11:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-06-19 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
Yes, that's what's happening here. I compiled the trunk without GnuTLS
support and I get the exact same error as the OP:
So is it not enough to have the file gnutls.h in the include path?
Because I can assure you it has been since you asked me to put it there
months ago. I don't use GnuTLS so I have no idea about its
functionality. Thanks for the practical help, Juanma. Though, I still
don't know where to go from here.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 10:59 ` Sean Sieger
@ 2011-06-19 11:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-19 11:25 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-19 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean Sieger; +Cc: 8825
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:59, Sean Sieger <sean.sieger@gmail.com> wrote:
> So is it not enough to have the file gnutls.h in the include path?
gnutls.c does not include <gnutls.h>, but <gnutls/gnutls.h>, so you
need to have in the include path a subdirectory gnutls with the
approppriate .h files. For example, what I do is to install GnuTLS
somewhere, let's say C:\soft\gnutls-2.10.1, and then add to my Emacs
include directory a link (a junction) to
C:\soft\gnutls-2.10.1\include\gnutls:
C:\emacs\include> dir
25/04/2011 15:58 <JUNCTION> gnutls
[c:\soft\GnuTLS-2.10.1\include\gnutls]
05/11/2009 15:39 <DIR> X11
24/10/2005 21:22 16.055 gif_lib.h
04/05/2006 21:23 4.902 iconv.h
30/11/2002 19:39 1.727 jconfig.h
18/10/1997 21:59 13.936 jerror.h
12/12/2002 21:29 14.330 jmorecfg.h
21/02/1998 20:48 46.205 jpeglib.h
17/08/2010 16:38 118.986 png.h
17/08/2010 16:38 46.138 pngconf.h
25/10/2004 00:07 4.959 simx.h
27/12/2005 13:28 33.725 tiff.h
23/03/2006 23:31 2.968 tiffconf.h
28/03/2006 10:35 23.216 tiffio.h
23/03/2006 16:46 410 tiffvers.h
20/08/2010 11:18 14.962 zconf.h
20/08/2010 11:18 78.468 zlib.h
but of course you can simply copy gnutls.h and compat.h to a suitable
gnutls directory, and then add the parent of it to the include path.
In any case, take a look at nt/config.log. If you didn't use
--without-gnutls, and configure.bat was unable to find GnuTLS, you'll
see
junk.c:1:28: fatal error: gnutls/gnutls.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
The failed program was:
#include "gnutls/gnutls.h"
main (){}
Juanma
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* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 11:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-06-19 11:25 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-19 12:39 ` Sean Sieger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-19 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean Sieger; +Cc: 8825
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 13:24, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote:
> but of course you can simply copy gnutls.h and compat.h to a suitable
> gnutls directory, and then add the parent of it to the include path.
Or, obviously, add C:\soft\GnuTLS-2.10.1\include (<-- or whatever) to
the include path, if you don't want to copy it.
Juanma
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 11:25 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-06-19 12:39 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-19 14:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-06-19 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
> but of course you can simply copy gnutls.h and compat.h to a suitable
> gnutls directory, and then add the parent of it to the include path.
Or, obviously, add C:\soft\GnuTLS-2.10.1\include (<-- or whatever) to
the include path, if you don't want to copy it.
Thank you, Juanma. It'll be done tomorrow. Sorry for the confusion.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 12:39 ` Sean Sieger
@ 2011-06-19 14:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-20 17:11 ` Sean Sieger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-06-19 14:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean Sieger; +Cc: 8825
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:39:40 -0400 Sean Sieger <sean.sieger@gmail.com> wrote:
SS> Thank you, Juanma. It'll be done tomorrow. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks for working on this, Sean.
Ted
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 14:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-06-20 17:11 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-20 20:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-06-20 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
Thanks for working on this, Sean.
Yep.
Anyone interested, please test that GnuTLS is fully-functioning with the
binaries that I've uploaded today.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-20 17:11 ` Sean Sieger
@ 2011-06-20 20:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-20 22:16 ` Sean Sieger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-20 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean Sieger; +Cc: 8825
> Anyone interested, please test that GnuTLS is fully-functioning with the
> binaries that I've uploaded today.
The OP's test case now works, yes.
Juanma
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-20 20:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-06-20 22:16 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-20 22:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-06-20 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8825
Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
The OP's test case now works, yes.
Thanks, Juanma.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-20 22:16 ` Sean Sieger
@ 2011-06-20 22:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-06-20 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean Sieger; +Cc: 8825-done
> The OP's test case now works, yes.
I'm closing this bug, BTW.
Juanma
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-19 0:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-19 2:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-06-20 23:22 ` nyc4bos
2011-06-21 12:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: nyc4bos @ 2011-06-20 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 8825
Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
>> Ted seems to indicate that "--with-gnutls" is necessary.
>
> Not on Windows. configure.bat tests for gnutls/gnutls.h and enables
> GnuTLS if found. There's the option --without-gnutls to disable that
> check.
>
>>> n> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnutls-boot)
>>> n> gnutls-boot(#<process tls> gnutls-x509pki (:priority "NORMAL" :hostname "imap.aim.com" :loglevel 0 :trustfiles nil :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags nil :verify-error nil :verify-hostname-error nil :callbacks nil))
>
> That backtrace means that the executable you are using wasn't compiled
> with GnuTLS support. Apparently Sean's binary tarballs (including
> emacs-20110613-bin-i386.zip) are built without it.
Sean's build of emacs-20110620-bin-i386.zip now has the GnuTLS builtin
which is working fine.
(Now I just need to fix the errors/warnings:
imap.aim.com certificate could not be verified.
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) certificate signer was not found: imap.aim.com
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) certificate validation failed: imap.aim.com
on Windows)
Thanks to all, especially Sean.
>
> Juanma
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#8825: 24.0.50; Problem with builtin gnutls on Windows
2011-06-20 23:22 ` nyc4bos
@ 2011-06-21 12:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-06-21 12:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nyc4bos; +Cc: Juanma Barranquero, 8825
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:22:02 -0400 nyc4bos@aol.com wrote:
n> Sean's build of emacs-20110620-bin-i386.zip now has the GnuTLS builtin
n> which is working fine.
n> (Now I just need to fix the errors/warnings:
n> imap.aim.com certificate could not be verified.
n> gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) certificate signer was not found: imap.aim.com
n> gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) certificate validation failed: imap.aim.com
n> on Windows)
I don't know if you want to open a new bug for this, but it's definitely
fixable. See gnutls.el for the current defaults for the certificate
bundle (Debian/Ubuntu and RedHat are the only cases now, IIRC).
Ted
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