From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67005: 30.0.50; improve nadivce/comp/trampoline handling Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:26:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874jhv9921.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <875y24zrt1.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <87ttpmwuxi.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <877cmct4a1.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <87bkbmiwpf.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <83fs0xhhqf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15536"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, 67005@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 23 21:28:20 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GJA-0003oD-Hf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 21:28:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GIs-0003AL-9Y; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GIo-0003A5-2z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:27:59 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GIn-0006Zp-Qy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:27:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GIr-0004zj-RE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:28:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andrea Corallo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 20:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67005 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67005-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67005.170077122419133 (code B ref 67005); Thu, 23 Nov 2023 20:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67005) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2023 20:27:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35185 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GHv-0004yX-NK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:27:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GHu-0004y2-69 for 67005@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:27:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GHk-0005qa-He; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:26:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=RS1eroxHCd4W0Kj7A/VPkRQrgcUjFUUqcPWMT7Ma20U=; b=jtZyHvEd+8iPCOI6YiNQ noOSbRJqIEw/mJPqyMgypySmozevDnYwSMBvtRTlnLLawSMt9S3dwbPr1pfthI4Yd4hOTUYsFQr5e F6CY6v2qJHe/GF1AoBMdxJEcotz4bWjAFDw/VLqpzm+xQVpK/6Lh2s0azZExY1bVAzV+gmNtrUfQE kcGxl1YLBWPFs2xt5Ge5B8bnjk+3RV1kFjlDJyiuFUt/9At2BqLhWIRnu9u3sK4svBxGyIQ7cn/uU 9/rMuLBl90jQUwnAQSHQ/pMrt0VzRMw9EFBKV3eUXGqlzFMxbN3cHRHFVi2ElSBAtigf0PcozdC/v IE4hhI06JvXVOw==; Original-Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6GHk-0000g0-7l; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:26:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:29 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274829 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>>> BTW, why is it a `defcustom` rather than a `defvar`? >>>> Do we really expect "normal users" to change it? >>> Yes, we do. I think they actually did already, maybe Andrea remembers >>> which functions and why. >> I remember as well they did it, but can't remember precisely the reason. >> Actually I suspect it might have been before we had the trampoline >> system up and running. ATM I can't picture any reason why a user would >> like to use this customize other than improving a specific backtrack or >> preventing a certain trampoline to be created, but indeed I might miss >> something. > > Part of the question is also: would those users benefit from using > Custom to set this var, instead of using a plain `add-to-list` or > `setq`? I fear I dont' have an answer to this. Another question would be what's the downside of keep on having it as custom variable? Thanks Andrea