From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67005: 30.0.50; improve nadivce/comp/trampoline handling Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:02:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874jhv9921.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <875y24zrt1.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <87ttpmwuxi.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <877cmct4a1.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <87bkbmiwpf.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <83fs0xhhqf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16322"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, Stefan Monnier , 67005@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 23 14:03:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r69MN-0003zg-Rp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:03:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r69MC-0004GV-7v; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:03:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r69MA-0004CI-LI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:02:58 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r69MA-0003ll-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:02:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r69MD-0001K8-S9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:03:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andrea Corallo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 13:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67005 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67005-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67005.17007445455031 (code B ref 67005); Thu, 23 Nov 2023 13:03:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67005) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2023 13:02:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32887 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r69Lc-0001J4-Ry for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:02:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r69LZ-0001Iq-Pa for 67005@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:02:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r69LO-00035m-Az; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:02:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=egDS6UndmJLac9L0tmYG6Y66oOWZivmrUwkhgpMfKjI=; b=cJ9KvJPE8RJKj4HiRoec 9TFeySQk4wypNxwCzy5YM2sSWnFEEzQ4/gb2JJpumyiroKi9095oAiOR3rXG8Qr01Ey8i6LXmLS87 k0hn1CtXDfnpHX4qLY/ZPuvneKiMJ4fKAiAk5Gmq9xZtmCuV4q7MQMSCXokNp9JJaqdpCmhaFKqzL xe9oQKg0YWqvvPr8EZSXI7ghbo2oM5eytSxjaz++ZtSsMrsrbSbhp4wQorJab5brx1QtUrUwll+LM PNQrNvy+9V+Bv4OcmOOpiUROnQWXD+GGD3AjrZbeDezw51RwUpbuz8HKgwy/qDxGcUBNAmEPw1NPm TXzecsNEQD/rug==; Original-Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r69LO-0008TU-1x; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:02:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83fs0xhhqf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 22 Nov 2023 18:31:52 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274802 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: Jens Schmidt , 67005@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 11:07:38 -0500 >> From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, >> the Swiss army knife of text editors" >> >> >>> Only slightly off-topic: When changing the default value of user option >> >>> `native-comp-never-optimize-functions', which now both Andrea and I have >> [...] >> > Good to know I updated it since I changed the vaule first. Thanks Jens >> > for noticing that. >> >> BTW, why is it a `defcustom` rather than a `defvar`? >> Do we really expect "normal users" to change it? > > Yes, we do. I think they actually did already, maybe Andrea remembers > which functions and why. I remember as well they did it, but can't remember precisely the reason. Actually I suspect it might have been before we had the trampoline system up and running. ATM I can't picture any reason why a user would like to use this customize other than improving a specific backtrack or preventing a certain trampoline to be created, but indeed I might miss something. Andrea