From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan =?utf-8?Q?Bockg=C3=A5rd?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: Why I may not use emacs any more for coding Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:00:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18384.42609.332493.397051@lisa.zopyra.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204887729 2416 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2008 11:02:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:02:09 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 07 12:02:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXaLQ-0006Py-AV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:02:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaKi-00034R-K6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:01:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaKN-0002pD-2O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:01:27 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaKG-0002hD-FA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:01:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaKF-0002gs-PM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:01:19 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXaKE-0005xL-PB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:01:19 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaJc-0002Tb-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:00:40 +0000 Original-Received: from remote2.student.chalmers.se ([129.16.29.80]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:00:40 +0000 Original-Received: from bojohan+news by remote2.student.chalmers.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:00:40 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: remote2.student.chalmers.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gnb80ejeqDlxAEak30hXllnLSpE= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17676 Archived-At: Bill Lear writes: > When using emacs inside an xterm (emacs -nw) with viper-mode, I find > an intolerable delay in the transition between editing and navigating > modes (reminder: this is effected by pressing the ESC key while in > editing mode). In vim/vi or in emacs outside of an xterm, I can > effect this transition with such speed that my fingers need not pause > after the ESC key is pressed before I begin my input of navigation > keystrokes, whereas under an xterm if attempt this transition, it > seems (based on observation only) that this takes AT LEAST 500 > milliseconds --- easily enough time to enter a half-dozen navigation > commands (up two lines and over four words: 'kkwwww'). Over the > course of a typical edit cycle, this interruption has become more and > more intolerable to me. Investigate `viper-ESC-keyseq-timeout' (and maybe `viper-translate-all-ESC-keysequences' and `viper-no-multiple-ESC'). -- Johan Bockgård