From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:40:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83h74u4csf.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23620"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55862@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 15:59:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzIh7-0005xr-7K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 15:59:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43680 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzIh4-0005sF-Vg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 09:59:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34564) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzHTD-0004OA-2E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 08:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51416) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzHTC-0001jM-Og for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 08:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzHTB-0007oO-Jd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 08:41:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: goncholden Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55862 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 55862-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55862.165477845530008 (code B ref 55862); Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55862) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2022 12:40:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45313 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzHT5-0007nw-M9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 08:40:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40140.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.140]:44705) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzHT1-0007nc-Di for 55862@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 08:40:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1654778445; x=1655037645; bh=XrGPLaOiEjOmSVJzGa+QG5eElUggyDeu6LnA4fg4guQ=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=IlLCQqT5ZvHxZ+Tzd9ctCyb60ZdyCqJygpafa/EWmImhrCEqX6m6kHRoU0uMvuG9u jGEkRvxM8Yqyoksv4qnU1BhALF/kUkIdcohFqD6Uxg9xQCfVtn7bxv5p8A4AF6iETw j7t0+MEKPkBdZa0lRBi6lXHhpCF31ItjmKwopGmk1R7ZwpKWEqlDqHflOOi4udLC5o Y4e7O5dZqIfBUqLd34BwN1rPQrbumsOfDyYLlthH03hkOUe7ZeLZqtuEWXEvzSZJuf S8riTf1Sj9JJZ1mvY0B78Ud25j3dN71Y1+KHIB7vDqN5/6PxdPyncdZItM2qeGrnyj 5E/Byn7VADW3Q== In-Reply-To: <83h74u4csf.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" X-ACL-Warn: , goncholden Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234058 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, June 9th, 2022 at 5:38 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 03:19:01 +0000 > > From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > Why is `indent-tabs-mode' t by default? Tabs should not be used. > > > That depends on the major mode. E.g., in text mode and its > derivatives this is turned off. But in programming modes, many > languages accept TABs, so using them is not a bad idea, especially > since this is a long-standing Emacs default. > > > I have been modifying bash scripts and the introduced tabs are driving = me insane. > > > Maybe shell-mode should change its defaults, then. I don't use that > too much, so I don't have an opinion. > > Of course, arguing about defaults is many times futile, since changing > them is very easy. > It is not so easy because one also has to make the change based on major mo= de.