From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48025: 28.0.50; Add an invocation option to inhibit native-compilation functionality Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:39:38 +0000 Message-ID: References: <421d2e18-e74c-8e0c-6a49-b6e23376eb14@orcon.net.nz> <83o8e1jlj4.fsf@gnu.org> <99e449c1-c40c-d83f-701e-9648f788f4e3@orcon.net.nz> <83h7jrj1fm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Andrea Corallo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16851"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Phil Sainty , 48025@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 28 21:52:37 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbqEd-0004FD-Vt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 21:52:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37732 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbqEd-00087l-2s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:52:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56780) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbq2T-0003DS-SV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:40:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbq2T-0007ZV-Kk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:40:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lbq2T-0006zC-HK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:40:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andrea Corallo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48025 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48025-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48025.161963878626829 (code B ref 48025); Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:40:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48025) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2021 19:39:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54124 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lbq2E-0006ye-1H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:39:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:54750) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lbq2B-0006yU-7h for 48025@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:39:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mab (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 13SJdcoW020401 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:39:39 GMT In-Reply-To: <83h7jrj1fm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:34:53 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:205137 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: 48025@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Phil Sainty >> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:28:24 +1200 >> >> >> But frankly, I would hesitate to complicate Emacs even for the latter >> >> possibility. What you ask for doesn't seem to be a user-level >> >> feature, it is mainly important for Emacs developers, and those can >> >> always build 2 separate binaries (e.g., I already did). Building a >> >> differently-configured Emacs, even from the same Git repository, is so >> >> easy that I don't really see a justification for a feature like you >> >> describe. >> >> I guess time will tell. My feeling was that if end users encounter >> native-comp bugs that are not trivial for the maintainers to reproduce >> (e.g. some collection of third-party packages is involved), then it >> might be super helpful to be able to ask them to test with native-comp >> disabled, to confirm whether or not that is a factor. As many users >> will, in future, be running a native-comp Emacs which has been pre- >> packaged for their OS, they will not easily be able to perform such a >> test without such a feature. > > I agree that we should probably revisit the issue after we have more > experience with native-compilation. > >> > - inhibit the automatic native compilation of new code with >> > `comp-deferred-compilation'. >> >> This, OTOH, doesn't use the "native" keyword at all. >> >> Could we rename any such variables so that everything to do with >> native compilation includes the word "native"? > > Yes, I think it's a good idea. Perhaps also the commands in comp.el > and even some non-interactive functions? I'll be happy to rename these functions if we come-up with a list. Andrea