From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57309: 29.0.50; Build error "trying to dump non fixed-up eln file" Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 08:43:38 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87zgfznjvz.fsf@gnus.org> <87tu67njdq.fsf@gnus.org> <87pmgvniyh.fsf@gnus.org> <83lerhdhuz.fsf@gnu.org> <83k071dfsg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29164"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= , larsi@gnus.org, 57309@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 22 10:44:12 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ32a-0007O1-F7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 10:44:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59894 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ32Z-0000tY-FY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:44:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ32Q-0000sY-Sx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47984) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ32Q-00037L-Jl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ32Q-00043L-AI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:44:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andrea Corallo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 08:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57309 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57309-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57309.166115782315534 (code B ref 57309); Mon, 22 Aug 2022 08:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2022 08:43:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37733 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ327-00042U-8s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:43:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:54559) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ324-00042K-Ra for 57309@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:43:41 -0400 Original-Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 27M8hcZI010502 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 22 Aug 2022 08:43:39 GMT In-Reply-To: <83k071dfsg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 21 Aug 2022 13:58:23 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:240384 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 57309@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org >> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 12:45:05 +0200 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> > I've removed src/emacs and src/bootstrap-emacs, and said "make". That >> > succeeded, but most of the preloaded files were loaded as *.elc. Then >> > I touch'ed every .el file that is preloaded, and said "make" again. >> > This ELC+ELN-compiled all of them, and then successfully loaded and >> > dumped them. >> > >> > Not sure what that means, but maybe try the same recipe? >>=20 >> That it succeeds is kind of what I'm afraid of :-). >>=20 >> I think Lars mentioned that a simple second make run made things work >> for him, and now I'm afraid if I leave the debugger or touch anything, I >> won't be able to reproduce the error again. >>=20 >> BTW, I think I've seen the same bug with the last change to Makefile.in, >> only with a different error message "...incoherent something...", where >> Lars mentioned he had seen that sort of error ca. once per month or so. >>=20 >> Something is really fishy here. > > The *.eln files aren't regenerated unless the corresponding *.el files > are newer than their *.elc files. This is a basic snafu we are living > with since the development of Emacs 28, and it still isn't resolved. > This happens even when Emacs changes in a way that requires a new > subdirectory under native-lisp/, which is a clear sign that the *.eln > files need to be regenerated. > > So yes, something is definitely "fishy". I suspect that the changes > Andrea did recently required a bump in the ABI_VERSION value, which > would then prevent Emacs from trying to load the old *.eln files. But > maybe I'm missing something. I hope Andrea chimes in soon. Sorry for being late to the party, I'm back. I don't think (or at least so far I don't see why) my change should have required a new ABI_VERSION. I'm trying to read all this long thread searching for a recipe to reproduce and understand better what is going on. Thanks Andrea