From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:24:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87oa9otixb.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5703E15B.7080601@cs.ucla.edu> <87k2kcovt8.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5704233B.4020103@cs.ucla.edu> <8737qzso88.fsf@russet.org.uk> <57045765.4000309@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3ei8vz9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5705B246.10201@cs.ucla.edu> <5706764D.2010708@cs.ucla.edu> <282e74a937853505fddfea446c9bc46e.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <57067BF6.6000700@cs.ucla.edu> <83bn5ll5i8.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8l5kypx.fsf@gnu.org> <837fg8lh49.fsf@gnu.org> <8360vsjdlc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460168772 15926 80.91.229.3 (9 Apr 2016 02:26:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 02:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 20484@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 20202@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 09 04:26:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aoibB-0004eO-Hv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 04:26:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59054 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoibA-0004F2-QV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:26:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55262) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoib5-0004AK-MG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:26:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoib4-0001D2-TF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42735) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoib4-0001Cy-Qe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoib4-0002rH-N2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:26:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 02:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20484 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20484-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20484.146016873510932 (code B ref 20484); Sat, 09 Apr 2016 02:26:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20484) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Apr 2016 02:25:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55068 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoiad-0002qF-EX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:25:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35996) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoiab-0002q2-MS for 20484@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:25:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoiaV-0001AF-Bj for 20484@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:25:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58989) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoiZl-00014L-5I; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:24:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aoiZk-0006cp-5Q; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:24:40 -0400 X-Spook: Juarez Authorities Emergency response Cyber terror Stuck X-Ran: $]RJynR2R".-_otS'\j List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116249 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Waiting won't do anything. One should actively contact maintainers of >> affected packages. It's our fault, not theirs. > > We already did. Please note that the list of affected applications may include things other than shells; eg http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-pretest-bug/2006-11/msg00035.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-pretest-bug/2006-11/msg00084.html http://www.swi-prolog.org/pldoc/man?section=flags "SWI-Prolog assumes this is the case if the environment variable EMACS is t" Since it is impossible to construct the definitive list of affected applications, that is why I am personally pessimistic about being able to change this without use of Emacs SOP: change it and see what breaks.