From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: even more(1) tells you how big the file is on the first screen Date: 13 Apr 2003 12:10:15 +0200 Organization: T-Online Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050228794 4004 80.91.224.249 (13 Apr 2003 10:13:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 10:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 13 12:13:12 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 194eU4-00012Q-00 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:13:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194eUE-0007Uz-01 for gnu-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:13:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194eU2-0007ON-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:13:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194eU1-0007Ne-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:13:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194eTf-0006xw-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 194eTf-000504-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194eT0-0006gl-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194eRH-0006Ad-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:10:19 -0400 Original-Received: from imh00.t-online.com by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 194eRD-00084Z-00; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:10:15 +0200 Original-Received: from news.t-online.com by imh00.t-online.com with esmtp id 194eRD-000282-00; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:10:15 +0200 Original-Received: from news by news.t-online.com with local id 194eRD-0005Am-00; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:10:15 +0200 Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu Original-Path: news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1050228615 04 18810 7x+zEMPETEAmce 030413 10:10:15 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-ID: bckq4EZvge8Ry8r+SB3BJ41GXfCMafQrB1R27EI2hj+z+6VnoE9bEs X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6,xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN;i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:4772 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:4772 Dan Jacobson writes: > You know, I think it's bad that no matter if we are looking > a giant file, or a little file, the mode line has that "Top" > item, instead of some indication of percent. "Top" is more closed > mouthed than an Army security officer. > ---1:---F1 some_file (Fundamental)--L1--Top-- > We have to move the cursor down to engage the percent mechanism. > > RMS, I recall, was pleased, as top was top. However, I want more for > my money without budging a finger. I.e. we have just done M-x > compile. Does the compile output end just below the screen where we > thought it should, or does it go on for page upon page? One could just say Top 15%. However, there is a major drawback: for compile buffers and their ilk, it would mean that even a buffer you are not really interested in until it is finished will keep the mode line busy and flashing. On a tty, this might impact your editing. Ok, if done smartly, it can flash only 100 times, but it might be distracting. Could be made configurable, though. > I mean even the mere wimpy less(1) and even more(1) tell you what > percent you are on right there on the first screen. They don't have to track a moving target. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum