From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: emacs -nw hangs on redirect
Date: 05 Nov 2003 02:44:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x565hztwq3.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.3179.1067994861.21628.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> I'm running emacs 21.2.1 on a linux ix86.
>
> If it is capable of running Emacs, it must have more than just Linux
> on it. Linux is a kernel, and a kernel alone is not capable of
> running programs like Emacs. You must have the GNU/Linux operating
> system installed.
Actually, if I remember correctly, there are non-GNU environments for
Linux available too (certainly for some embedded systems, and I think
there was even a proof-of-concept BSD flavor system with a Linux
kernel). But it would appear unlikely that he was using one of those.
> When you call the entire system "Linux", you give the system's
> principal developers none of the credit.
I would not go as far as to claim the kernel and system utility
developers are not also principal developers of the system. And I
don't think that he was intending to give _anybody_ credit just by
trying to specify his system. When somebody calls me just by my given
name, I don't assume that he is trying to give credit to the father of
Solomon for me, but denying my parents appreciation.
> And yet here you are asking us to help you out. Please start
> treating us right.
If you talk for yourself, the proper pronoun to use here is "me". He
was writing to an Emacs developer list, and I find it somewhat out of
balance to call all Emacs developers principal developers of GNU/Linux
systems while denying the kernel developers that title.
> (See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html for more
> explanation.)
Quite so. There is really not much point in repeating here what is
already available for perusal elsewhere and in a better reviewed (and
thus probably less misconstruable) form than what one can come up with
in a moment oneself.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-05 1:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-04 13:43 emacs -nw hangs on redirect Victor Lesk
2003-11-05 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <mailman.3179.1067994861.21628.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-11-05 1:44 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2003-11-07 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] <mailman.3114.1067953597.21628.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-11-04 16:18 ` Barry Margolin
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