From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17625: 24.4.50; All installed packages marked "unsigned", no archive listed Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 17:28:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tx89ffax.fsf@pellet.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <2vvbsnrgpk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401571754 2683 80.91.229.3 (31 May 2014 21:29:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 17625@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 31 23:29:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqpv-0008JN-TI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 23:29:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33024 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqpv-0002qo-9y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:29:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38594) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqpr-0002ox-I8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqpq-0001eB-Nj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40333) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqpq-0001e7-L0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqpq-0004BW-86 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17625 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17625-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17625.140157170016022 (code B ref 17625); Sat, 31 May 2014 21:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17625) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2014 21:28:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39210 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqp9-0004AL-GN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:28:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45675 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqp7-0004A8-9Y for 17625@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:28:17 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqqp6-0001vY-FS; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:28:16 -0400 X-Spook: JSOFC3IP Indigo AIMSX Merlin BLU-114/B Capricorn X-Ran: Nnjm@zNIyoF,vneuNTKmrqZ.D9&W+tv%P_{g71tE=$#@"{!?ZLKGmSv{VW[d-Uc]ru?"up X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 31 May 2014 16:19:32 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:89829 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > I guess we could move the archive-generation process to another machine, I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about, but I think that's the kind of thing you have to do if this is to have any real value. And for an inherently-not-very-secure environment like Emacs, is it worth it? > AFAIK we currently use http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/, so no SSL > involved. Right. Will it Just Work to change that to https? > I don't enough about SSL certs to be sure whether it would provide > comparable guarantees to signed packages. I think SSL would verify that you are talking to the server that you thought you were talking too, and that no-one had injected anything in between you and it. Which is all that gpg-signed packages would do, if the machine that hosts the packages also does the signing (AFAICS).