From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2375: 23.0.90; ^ in gnus summary buffer does not work in the nextstep build Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:09:44 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <20090218182725.7F0B564571F@ate.maierh> Reply-To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , 2375@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235694372 12354 80.91.229.12 (27 Feb 2009 00:26:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Harald Maier , 2375@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 27 01:27:28 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LcqZO-0003QL-J1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:27:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33543 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LcqY3-0006GW-MT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:25:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LcqVy-0005Ks-DN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:23:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LcqVx-0005KK-Ba for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:23:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39501 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LcqVx-0005KD-2G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:23:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:58685) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LcqVw-0004LY-Ej for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:23:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1R0NbJO008010; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:23:38 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n1R0F3Ni005427; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:15:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2375 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2375-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2375.12356933884105 (code B ref 2375); Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:15:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2375) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Feb 2009 00:09:48 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp [133.82.132.2]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1R09ihV004099 for <2375@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:09:46 -0800 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086C82C44; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:09:44 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 =?UTF-8?Q?(Shij=C5=8D)?= APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:23:41 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:25755 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:21:11 -0500, Stefan Monnier said: > It still leaves open the question of whether it would be desirable > to shortcut this so that pressing ^ in the Gnus summary immediately > calls the Gnus command, without having to press a subsequent SPC. Besides a matter of taste, the marked text (corresponding to preedit in XIM) is not necessarily identical to the pressed key (e.g., Japanese input methods). >> Also, the difference in the code length shows how the Cocoa/GNUstep >> port oversimplifies the whole text input processing: it doesn't >> respect attributes in the marked text (which corresponds to text >> properties) or the selected range value. > I don't know what is "the marked text" nor what is "the selected > range value". They are in the Cocoa NSTextInput terminology. The "marked text" corresponds to "preedit" in XIM as above or "active input" in Carbon TSM. I don't know why the Cocoa/GNUstep port call it "working text". The "selected range" represents the caret position in the marked text. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp