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From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
Cc: aquamacs-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net, whenney@gmail.com,
	5869@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#5869: [Aquamacs-bugs] Re: incorrect fontification of non-ascii chars on Mac OS X 10.4
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:34:43 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wlirzwmsa4.wl%mituharu__20770.5020242885$1270746221$gmane$org@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7A52A2B4-ADD0-44A0-B8C9-A1F8F4CCDE75@gmail.com>

>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:59:01 +0100, David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com> said:

>>> Well, create-fontset-from-mac-roman seems to create fontsets with
>>> fonts only drawn from the 'roman' type.

>> Could you give me a concrete example?

> I didn't try it out (don't use cyrillic fonts etc.), but I looked at
> the name of the function and at the code, which uses

> (create-fontset-from-ascii-font font resolved-font fontset-name)

> The documentation says that this function 'Create[s] a fontset from
> an ASCII font font", which I take to be roman only.  But let me know
> if I'm mistaken there. I don't know much about the whole font
> business...

Please don't just guess.  Fontsets defined with
create-fontset-from-ascii-font can also display non-ascii fonts (if
corresponding fonts are installed).  Unspecified parts are
complemented using the data in "fontset-default" and others.

I've been using fontsets defined with
create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font and I can display CJK characters as
well as mac-roman, mac-centraleurroman, mac-cyrillic, mac-symbol, and
mac-dingbats characters.

>> As for the "tons of wrong glyphs" problem, I think that's due to a
>> misuse of the function, rather than a bug.  The function
>> create-fontset-from-fontset-spec is suitable only for the case that
>> all the characters in a single charset are displayed with a single
>> font.  But that's not the case for fonts in Mac encodings.

> Uuh, oh - the documentation of create-fontset-from-fontset-spec
> doesn't say so. Maybe it's a documentation bug then :)

I think the format of the FONTSET-SPEC argument implicitly says that.

  FONTSET-SPEC is a string of the format:
	FONTSET-NAME,CHARSET-NAME0:FONT-NAME0,CHARSET-NAME1:FONT-NAME1,...
	
Moreover, we usually don't have to care about that on X11.

> So what should we use to define a fontset that contains roman and
> non- roman fonts for a variety of charsets?  That's quite relevant,
> because at least a few standard fontsets need to support everything.

  (create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font
   "-*-FAMILY-medium-r-normal--SIZE-*-*-*-*-*-mac-roman" nil "NAME")

would do the right thing for normal use.  If one also want to use ETL
fonts, one can refer to how "fontset-mac" is defined.

> If you look at carbon-font.el by T. Hiromatsu, you'll see a lot of
> (undocumented or documented-in-Japanese) code that deals with fonts,
> using create-fontset-from-fontset-spec. I assume you have a better
> idea about what's going on there...

I've no idea about its intention.  It also introduces tons of wrong
glyphs...

				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp








  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-30  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <F6BCBF6F-FF15-4D11-9AE1-ECBDCA0A0417@gmail.com>
2005-06-29 11:15 ` bug#5885: [Aquamacs-bugs] Re: incorrect fontification of non-ascii chars on Mac OS X 10.4 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
     [not found] ` <wl7jgdjtxc.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
2005-06-29 15:54   ` bug#5901: " William Henney
     [not found]   ` <BC82FC11-C906-429F-9546-F9EE3E9D1B4B@gmail.com>
2005-06-29 16:03     ` bug#5888: " David Reitter
     [not found]     ` <A6AF94A4-60BD-4929-8A4F-F7D17FDAE469@gmail.com>
2005-06-29 16:36       ` bug#5886: " YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
     [not found]       ` <20050630.013633.55126241.mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
2005-06-29 16:59         ` bug#5892: " David Reitter
     [not found]         ` <7A52A2B4-ADD0-44A0-B8C9-A1F8F4CCDE75@gmail.com>
2005-06-30  3:34           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [this message]
     [not found]           ` <wlirzwmsa4.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
2005-06-30  6:52             ` bug#5868: " David Reitter
     [not found]             ` <04238FA2-2D02-41F0-9FDC-F843D518985F@gmail.com>
2005-06-30 10:40               ` bug#5870: " YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-06-30 17:56             ` bug#5880: " Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <jwvmzp7bujm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2005-07-01  7:21               ` bug#5884: " YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
     [not found]               ` <wl4qbfxa8h.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
2005-07-01 15:15                 ` bug#5875: " Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                 ` <87u0jea7gy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2005-07-01 16:32                   ` bug#5899: " William Henney
     [not found]                   ` <F862FCDC-4751-462D-A6A5-C2099EC31794@gmail.com>
2005-07-01 16:41                     ` bug#5874: " David Reitter
2005-07-01 17:05                     ` bug#5879: " Stefan Monnier
2005-07-02  4:01                   ` bug#5883: " YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-07-02  5:04                   ` bug#5873: " YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu

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