From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6401: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:29:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3ECA75E7-611F-4D2A-B6B9-C0FEC96D1070@hofland.no> <822479C3-8B02-4BD7-AB56-C5D7DD31D9D6@tenkan.org> <2cmxboiol1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1321983054 25606 80.91.229.12 (22 Nov 2011 17:30:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6401@debbugs.gnu.org, tim@tenkan.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 22 18:30:49 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuBF-0003X7-Kp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:30:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36884 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuBF-0005fl-62 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:30:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58641) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuBB-0005ey-QM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:30:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuB8-0007s1-39 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:30:45 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:32986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuB7-0007rq-WC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:30:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuCP-0007NO-SL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:32:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6401 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6401-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6401.132198308728308 (code B ref 6401); Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6401) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2011 17:31:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuBm-0007MP-M0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:31:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuBk-0007MF-6O for 6401@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:31:20 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuAQ-0002TP-KH; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:29:58 -0500 X-Spook: Mafia RSA Nazi global bemd Guantanamo kilderkin AUTODIN X-Ran: rGQoR<2C644Y`"]Q@}~bEf685VcR:v[HBm6rO3e2uCx~J,@#z$AmQVL2Q{J]ry>tlKn};W X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 22 Nov 2011 03:36:53 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:32:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54168 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Why does a --with-ns build actually need to set these env-vars for child >> processes? >> Could they specifically be unset in spawned M-x shells? > > How will Emacs know that these variables weren't set by the parent > shell? I'm ignorant of all this. What do child processes of Emacs need these variables for? Can you give me one example of something I might want to run inside an emacs M-x shell buffer that needs to know EMACSDATA? It's not set in shells spawned by a GNU/Linux build. Also, don't you get a clear error about the charsets directory not being found if EMACSDATA is wrong (from init_charset), rather than a failue to load some particular charset? Which makes me think this is probably not the problem the OP was having anyway...