From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1183: 23.0.60; ediff-buffers is broken Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:19:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <00a101c92fbf$998d19b0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <00eb01c92fd0$1be49cc0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <002501c93078$21bf8c60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 1183@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224269483 30756 80.91.229.12 (17 Oct 2008 18:51:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1183@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, kifer@cs.stonybrook.edu To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 17 20:52:23 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KquQi-0001n1-O3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:52:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60009 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KquPd-0001Tp-L7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:51:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KquOq-00018K-9C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KquOn-00016I-Lm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59343 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KquOm-00015u-IL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:45067) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KquOl-0008Et-Gf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9HIo0YD024796; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:50:02 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9HIj5uS023814; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:45:05 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:45:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1183 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122426865122414 (code B ref -1); Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:45:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Oct 2008 18:37:31 +0000 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9HIbRK9022408 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:37:28 -0700 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KquCV-0006TM-Bp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KquCU-0006RV-2d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58699 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KquCT-0006RF-Ta for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:37:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]:63890) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kqtwu-0000RA-VX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.24.3]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K8W00KNJAYSIO50@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:20:53 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <002501c93078$21bf8c60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Error: This connection is not (no longer?) in the cache. X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:10 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21632 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , "'Michael Kifer'" > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:48:06 -0700 > > > > We could also let them compare equal, but display a message to the > > > effect that the buffers define different encoding for saving them to > > > files. Opinions? > > > > That would be fine, indeed. > > Fine, but not enough. If a user wants to see the textual differences between the > two buffers, the info that the encodings are different is not helpful enough to > get the job done. You misunderstood. My suggestion, to which Stefan agreed, was that _in_addition_ to showing any textual differences, ediff-buffers would display a warning saying that the buffers _also_ differ in the way they will be encoded on their disk files. In the extreme case that the text is identical, only the warning will remain as the single sign of a difference. > In the case described, there are real textual differences (an > added Lisp sexp), and ediff-buffers is not at all helpful in showing them. After Ediff is fixed, you will see the diffs you see in Emacs 22, plus a message saying that the EOL format is different.