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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: bug#641: format-time-string %Z does not work, starting with Emacs 22.2
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:34:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uwsivjop0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <001501c8f67e$7c63b300$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com>

> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:07:28 -0700
> Cc: 
> 
> > From: martin rudalics Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:24 PM
> >  > emacs -Q
> >  > M-: (format-time-string "%Z) ==> ""
> >  > M-: (format-time-string "%z) ==> "-0700"
> >  >
> >  > The %Z string is incorrect. In my case, it should be (as it is in
> >  > Emacs 20 and Emacs 22.1): "Pacific Daylight Time".
> >  >
> >  > This same bug appears in Emacs 23.  This is a regression from Emacs
> >  > 22.1.
> > 
> > See
> > 2007-06-07  Jason Rumney  <jasonr@gnu.org>
> > 	* s/ms-w32.h: Don't define HAVE_TZNAME.
> > 	* editfns.c (Fcurrent_time_zone): Remove hack for 
> >       Japanese Windows.
> > 
> > and the preceding discussion starting with
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-06/msg00334.html
> 
> Sorry; I don't know what all of that means.

What it means is that we did this on purpose, and therefore the fact
you get an empty string for %Z is not a bug.

> It is obviously a bug, however, that %Z produces an empty time-zone string. I
> use it for a time stamp, for instance, with this form:
>  (format-time-string "%a %b %e %T %Y (%Z)")
> 
> After the change that introduced the bug, I get this:
> 
> Mon Aug  4 15:01:16 2008 ()
> 
> instead of this:
> 
> Mon Aug  4 15:01:16 2008 (Pacific Daylight Time)

"Pacific Daylight Time" is not a Posix- or RFC-822 compliant timezone
specification.  It comes from the MS-Windows version of `tzname',
which produces RFC-compliant TZ strings only for a very small subset
of timezone specifications, and even that only after you call `tzset'
from within an application.  So we disabled the use of `tzname' on
Windows to avoid producing non-compliant timezone strings, which could
break others, e.g. if used in an email message header.

Posix specifies that if `tzname' is not available, %Z should produce
an empty string.  This means that an empty string is a valid result of
format-time-string for %Z, and if you use %Z in your Lisp code, you
should make allowances for the case of an empty string, no matter on
which platform.







  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-05 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-04 21:24 bug#641: format-time-string %Z does not work, starting with Emacs 22.2 martin rudalics
2008-08-04 22:07 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-05  6:28   ` martin rudalics
2008-08-05 18:34   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-08-05 23:54     ` Drew Adams
2008-08-06  3:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-06  5:40         ` Drew Adams
2008-08-06 18:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-06 19:48             ` Drew Adams
2008-08-06 20:34               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-08-06 23:05                 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-07  3:16                   ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]           ` <mailman.15951.1218049658.18990.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-06 19:53             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-06 21:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-06 21:35               ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]               ` <mailman.15962.1218059257.18990.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-07 13:20                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-07 18:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-07 18:51                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-07 18:59                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-07 20:14                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-07 20:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-07 20:36                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-07 20:58                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-08-07 21:04                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-07 21:13                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-08-07 21:31                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-08  7:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.16075.1218180793.18990.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-08 15:04                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-08 15:57                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-08-08 17:22                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-08 17:27                                               ` Drew Adams
2008-08-09  1:00                                                 ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-09 14:13                                                 ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-08 18:46                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-09  0:59                                               ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-08 18:47                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-08-09  1:01                                               ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-09 14:13                                               ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-09  1:01                                             ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-08 17:16                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-09 14:12                                             ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-08  7:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-07 21:47                                 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-07 21:20                         ` martin rudalics
2008-08-08  7:17                           ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-01 16:45 Drew Adams

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