From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1183: 23.0.60; ediff-buffers is broken Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:34:27 +0200 Message-ID: References: <00a101c92fbf$998d19b0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <00eb01c92fd0$1be49cc0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 1183@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224269471 30721 80.91.229.12 (17 Oct 2008 18:51:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1183@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, kifer@cs.stonybrook.edu To: Stefan Monnier , Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 17 20:52:10 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KquQZ-0001jO-Jl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:51:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59923 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KquPU-0001PI-Nw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KquOp-00017n-Gk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KquOm-00015t-Go for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59342 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KquOm-00015q-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:45068) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KquOl-0008Ev-Kq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9HIo0Y7024796; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:50:01 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9HIe5BM022579; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:40:05 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:40:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1183 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1183-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1183.122426847621204 (code B ref 1183); Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:40:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1183) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Oct 2008 18:34:36 +0000 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il (mtaout6.012.net.il [84.95.2.16]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9HIYWed021191 for <1183@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:34:33 -0700 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.24.3]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K8W007MLBNR8N90@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for 1183@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:35:52 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:50:09 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21631 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: 1183@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Michael Kifer > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:02:11 -0400 > > > In a discussion in Oct 2007, Stefan said that using the buffer's > > encoding is wrong, see: > > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-10/msg01381.html > > > Stefan wanted to use the equivalent of emacs-mule for Emacs 23 instead > > of buffer's encoding, but do we have such an encoding now? Is > > no-conversion-multibyte it? Or maybe utf-8 is good enough? > > As mentioned in the past, I think `no-conversion' should be killed > because it's confusing. As for the problem at hand, utf-8-emacs-unix is > what we want to use. Suppose we write the temp files with utf-8-emacs-unix encoding--won't that bite us when the output from Diff is then read with raw-text (see ediff-exec-process)? If raw-text won't work for utf-8-emacs output from Diff, is there a better way than overriding the coding-system priorities with `with-coding-priority'? > > But first, we should decide whether we want such buffers to compare > > equal or not. > > I believe we do, because it's called ediff-buffers. There's ediff-files > for when you want to compare the files. Don't you think having direct file comparison yield results that are different from comparing buffers that visit those same files will be confusing?