From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Masterson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: [OT] Re: configure script Date: 12 Jun 2002 15:24:25 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <61D0BADD.74BBFB3A.B8B383E9@netscape.net> <200206081915.g58JFT128804@aztec.santafe.edu> <538dgukrilgffka0tdkddf7hdph4i9b5va@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1023920844 710 127.0.0.1 (12 Jun 2002 22:27:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17IGaK-0000BK-00 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:27:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17IGaC-0004QS-00; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:27:16 -0400 Original-Received: from trinity.ranger.supernews.net ([216.168.1.22] helo=trinity.supernews.net) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17IGXY-0004FA-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:24:32 -0400 Original-Received: from pa-01.ranger.supernews.net ([216.168.1.34] helo=pa-01.supernews.net) by trinity.supernews.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17IGXX-000PwN-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:24:31 +0000 Original-Received: (from news@localhost) by pa-01.supernews.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g5CMOVR4092771 for gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:24:31 GMT (envelope-from nntp-bounce@supernews.net) X-Authentication-Warning: pa-01.supernews.net: news set sender to nntp-bounce@supernews.net using -f Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu Original-Path: corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Original-X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 33 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:1981 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:1981 >>>>> David Kastrup writes: > The people involved in the GNU project don't get a say about this. > I had an exchange with RMS just recently in letters to lwn.net where > I tried to get him to tell me just who constitutes the GNU project > so that one could ask their opinion. > The turnout: nobody constitutes the GNU project. People > contributing don't have a voice. The voice of the GNU project is > Richard Stallman, and when he talks as "we" when talking about the > GNU project, he is not speaking on behalf of any persons. > So it is not his position that the people working on the GNU project > have a say on the naming issue. It is, however, by virtue of their > work that _he_ has a say on this issue. > Make of this what you will. I, of course, was not privy to your exchange with RMS, so I can only guess the precise statements that were made. I wonder, however, if another interpretation might've been that people come and go so quickly in the "GNU project" that there would be no way to "ask their opinion". Therefore, the FSF (and RMS), as the guiding influence and holders of the copyright assignments, must act as custodians of the project and attempt to express the wishes of the project. Presumably, people contributing code to the project know and understand this when they copyleft their code. Or they would be attempting to take back their contribution. -- David Masterson David DOT Masterson AT synopsys DOT com Sr. R&D Engineer Synopsys, Inc. Software Engineering Sunnyvale, CA