From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1483: cleanup: replace NO_SOCKETS_IN_FILE_SYSTEM in emacsclient.c Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:13:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200812030635.mB36Z9mk024296@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <1228291406.49363d4ebc7d8@webmail.freedom2surf.net> <200812031524.mB3FOBqt025290@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200812031915.mB3JF4ts026816@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200812032203.mB3M3jGD028987@mothra.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 1483@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228365042 12293 80.91.229.12 (4 Dec 2008 04:30:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 04:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, jasonr@f2s.com To: Dan Nicolaescu , 1483@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 05:31:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L85sE-00014N-Dc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:31:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38683 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L85r3-0004hg-W4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:30:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L85r0-0004hZ-Nd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L85r0-0004hI-7k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37330 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L85qz-0004h8-Uu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:40227) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L85qz-0008Ml-FY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:30:17 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mB44UDUn030391; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:30:14 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mB44K3os027388; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:20:03 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1483 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122836399926060 (code B ref -1); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:20:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 4 Dec 2008 04:13:19 +0000 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mB44DGqp026051 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:13:17 -0800 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L85aV-0001CX-SO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:13:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L85aU-0001CL-5R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:13:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48026 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L85aT-0001CI-WC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:13:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il ([84.95.2.16]:65052) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L85aT-00077j-Jr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:13:13 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout6.012.net.il by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KBC008003LD1O00@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:15:23 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.111.178]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KBC00EOZ3TMFN70@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:15:23 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <200812032203.mB3M3jGD028987@mothra.ics.uci.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:30:18 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22934 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:03:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Dan Nicolaescu > Cc: 1483@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, jasonr@f2s.com > > > > The clear precedent is that WINDOWSNT already encompasses a bazillion > > > features, why would a bazillion + 1 won't make any difference? > > > > As Eli pointed out, we should be moving towards decreasing the > > bazillion things conflated into #ifdef WINDOWSNT, not increasing them. > > Good luck convincing anyone about that. I don't see any need for convincing someone about that. Making such changes is routine maintenance that doesn't need any approval. The main problem is to find a volunteer for this huge job. > There are 378 undocumented macros in admin/CPP-DEFINES, and probably > 1000-2000 in use in src/*, increasing that number does not seem such > a hot idea. The sheer number of defines is not the problem. The problem is that some or maybe even most of them don't clearly tell what they mean. It is this problem that IMO we should work on, not just on removing defines or lumping unrelated features into a single OS-dependent define.