From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#819: 23.0.60; group and owner "Everyone" - what's that about? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:46:00 +0300 Message-ID: References: <001201c909e8$001b46a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 819@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220033272 30024 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 18:07:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Drew Adams , 819@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 20:08:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZ8Ok-00048C-9f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:08:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34816 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ8Nl-0002as-Oc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:07:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ8Ni-0002aS-B5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:07:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ8Ni-0002aG-1G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:07:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51775 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ8Nh-0002aD-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:07:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:52893) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ8Ng-00021D-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:07:32 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7TI7TeT013376; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:07:29 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m7THt800008432; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:55:08 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:55:08 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 819 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 819-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B819.12200320006135 (code B ref 819); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:55:08 +0000 Original-Received: (at 819) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 29 Aug 2008 17:46:40 +0000 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il (mtaout7.012.net.il [84.95.2.19]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7THkZBC006116 for <819@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:46:37 -0700 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.211.50]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K6D00MFWIPL0H20@i-mtaout7.012.net.il> for 819@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:46:34 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <001201c909e8$001b46a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:07:34 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19867 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22890 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:00:39 -0700 > Cc: > > emacs -Q > Dired on a subdir of, say, c:\ > > .. has the owner and group listed as "Everyone". What's that about? If > I click `..', I see that none of the files or subdirectories in c:\ > belong to "Everyone" (in my case). That "Everyone" artifact is > incorrect and misleading. You interpret "Everyone" too literally. "Everyone" is the Windows way of attributing a file's ownership to no one in particular. This is what you will see for each and every file on a FAT32 volume, because FAT32 does not support file security, only NTFS does. So "Everyone" is not an artefact, it's what Windows reports to Emacs as the owner and primary group of a file or directory. That said, I cannot reproduce this on my machine, with NTFS filesystem: each file and directory I see belongs to some valid user or group, and in particular all subdirectories of c:\ have "Administrators" as the owner of ".." and "SYSTEM" as its primary group. That is what I'd expect on a typical Windows machine with NTFS filesystem. So what you see is some strange peculiarity of your system, I think. Perhaps because you upgraded your filesystem from FAT32? In any case, "Everyone" is a legitimate value of a Windows owner and/or primary group of a file.