From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bellinstead Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:17:27 +0200 Message-ID: References: <009901c9421f$5bd0a6b0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226259158 20702 80.91.229.12 (9 Nov 2008 19:32:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 19:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Jason Spiro , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 09 20:33:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KzG2V-0008AQ-73 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:33:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60639 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KzG1O-0002ue-3w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:32:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFzQ-0001fs-HY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFzB-0001V2-LE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44980 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFzA-0001Un-68 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:12 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:52133) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KzFz9-0001QS-2d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA9JU6ka000612; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:30:06 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mA9JP3AW031619; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:25:03 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:25:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1305 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1305.122625825430380 (code B ref 1305); Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:25:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Nov 2008 19:17:34 +0000 Original-Received: from mtaout3.012.net.il (mtaout3.012.net.il [84.95.2.7]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA9JHUjd030373 for <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:17:32 -0800 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout3.012.net.il by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KA200C00YSNK500@i_mtaout3.012.net.il> for 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:19:11 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.241.172]) by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KA200K28YZYNJA1@i_mtaout3.012.net.il>; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:19:11 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:16 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22244 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 23:08:48 -0500 > From: "Jason Spiro" > Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, > control@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > > Many people don't know how to turn the PC speaker beep lower or off. I have difficulty believing this. Almost every computer has speakers nowadays, and every kid plays with them all the time. I know my kids do. > And IMO its volume is too high by default. The volume is not under Emacs control, it depends on how the system is set up. > > If you think there are currently too many places where Emacs beeps, try instead > > to remove some of those beeps on a case-by-case basis. Don't just replace > > beeping with flashing. > > How do we remove them on a case-by case basis? The beep from pressing > C-g perhaps is possible to remove individually. But how about the > "End of buffer" one you get when you try to move the point past the > end of the buffer? I see no problem with dealing with each case individually. Just grep the C sources for `bitch_at_user' and `Fding', and the Lisp sources for `ding'.