From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#641: format-time-string %Z does not work, starting with Emacs 22.2 Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:17:52 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4897737C.90709@gmx.at> <001501c8f67e$7c63b300$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <008601c8f756$9bce0f00$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <00a001c8f786$fa665d30$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <86skthj4yf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86fxphgdw1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <489B441F.6070402@gmail.com> <489B6716.7070006@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 641@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218180810 12474 80.91.229.12 (8 Aug 2008 07:33:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 08 09:34:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KRMUG-0003hr-MS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:34:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRMTK-0004ph-VS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:33:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KRMTG-0004pY-RS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:33:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KRMTE-0004mS-Cl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:33:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43615 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRMTE-0004mG-4E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:28136) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KRMTE-0007GU-43 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KRMTC-0004BZ-Oc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:33:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m787RNUq019323; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:27:24 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m787P5pg018166; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:25:05 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , don@donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:25:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 641 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121817988016440 (code B ref -1); Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:25:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Aug 2008 07:18:00 +0000 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m787HtsW016434 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:17:57 -0700 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KRMEV-0008Ta-Dj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:17:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KRMEU-0008SU-L4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:17:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57095 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRMEU-0008S7-E7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:27146) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KRMEU-000661-KE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il ([84.95.2.16]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KRMET-0002aG-AR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:17:53 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.211.50]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K5900BXZTM7S6F0@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:18:08 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <489B6716.7070006@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:33:10 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19134 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:20:22 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" , > tzz@lifelogs.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > >>How many time zones are there? > > > > I see 87 on my machine. > > Hmmm ... I suppose these include DSTs. No, they are just _names_. Under each name there are rules for switching between standard and daylight-saving time, and also the specific strings to use as the time-zone name during standard and daylight-saving periods. > Anyway, wouldn't we have to multiply this with the number of > languages supported? Each name should be multiplied by the number of spellings in different languages supported by the corresponding locale. I don't know what is the multiplication factor, but it's probably at least 2. And that's in addition to the 2 values for standard and daylight-saving periods. However, the sheer number of the possible names is not the issue now. It's the fact that we simply do not know all the possible spellings that makes this idea impossible to implement at this time.