From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2151: 23.0.90; Building the 23.0.90 pretest recompiles Lisp files Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:25:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 2151@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233722669 17821 80.91.229.12 (4 Feb 2009 04:44:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2151@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 04 05:45:43 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LUZdY-0005YH-HB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:45:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47843 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUZcF-0000Wd-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:43:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUZbt-0000J9-P1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:43:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUZbr-0000IK-4M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:43:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55889 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUZbq-0000IC-Vo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:43:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:50031) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUZbp-0005BW-Ul for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n144hVdL020276; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:43:31 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n144Z26f017952; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:35:02 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2151 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2151-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2151.123372159116687 (code B ref 2151); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2151) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 4 Feb 2009 04:26:31 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il (mtaout5.012.net.il [84.95.2.13]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n144QNWB016681 for <2151@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:26:25 -0800 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout5.012.net.il by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KEI00H00XF7X700@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for 2151@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:26:02 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.158.130]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KEI00JCFXNEJRO2@i_mtaout5.012.net.il>; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:26:02 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:43:36 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24916 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: 2151@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:24:54 -0500 > > >> Getting make to understand the nature of the dependencies here is pretty > >> tricky, so you can get it to work right for the tarball or you can get > >> it to work right for the "cvs update" case, but it's pretty painful > >> to get it to work right in both cases. > > > I think it shouldn't be too hard, and the ideas you suggested further > > in your mail are my evidence. > > Have you tried it? It seems to work OK for the "checkout from CVS" > case, so maybe it's a good solution. Which one? you suggested more than one, I think. > > I don't think we need a bootstrap-emacs in a released version at all. > > We could add some file to the tarball, generated at make-dist time, to > > signal that bootstrap-emacs is not needed. That file could actually > > be named `bootstrap-emacs', which should resolve the problem nicely > > (assuming we manage to have it older than the oldest .elc file). > > Maybe we can get that to work, but it sounds terribly hackish. Why hackish? many distributions have or create such time-stamp files, for Make's sake. > Also, I'd like to make sure that if some wants to change some .el files > and then recompile, it still works correctly. It will, I think, because we can copy emacs to bootstrap-emacs at the end of the build. I will give this a try when I have time.