From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58459: Getting a fresh emacs session with no customisation Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:40:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <3gN0Jqr94UeUj3xJtDV3zGvZVbUyjtQFAloYxrdvwN_ZHa3tEUYyFv8h3VcYYSk_gxgMaaBW94kAkaAUCgbd9QKZMkkYJBty-7XOadbzHHQ=@proton.me> <87fsfsc9af.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o7ufafow.fsf@gnu.org> <83edvbae5a.fsf@gnu.org> <87edva95z3.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22314"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, Eli Zaretskii , uzibalqa@proton.me, 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 21:42:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ojQZV-0005Yi-P8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:40:41 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <87edva95z3.fsf@yahoo.com> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ejT3vz1Y7o7V6hod00LOceD+U0mvhjIb5VA8yVjrphkNIQ7csQlgg8Ah1njd5SxN+MPyx AxLK2KpRHJhavLavoz3ecoPQ+4tOxCOc1oT/b/WlGfYXWyn2G8lL2vdYKRMf6Y68Nq3elBcL/X4s RwsdLyp5Gbj47CEn2gSeR38cbZH4o33fcxByO/haPP+XlDWbi5pfYE27TBQrVj7sulHkvd5bpwdE P/tHzJDn8kpK7UthsFGuFvTYpPtjIvQL98wah7FOSEqoOQaPIIkUlGKdvNW9E5YiDDDc0GR/nshZ 5A= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:OlvpJwLcFg0=:LfW/VPbpLN0kX0RNu6j0xg oLNnApvDjwe8r0RwkQB3aJlSmkYiZDKcN1GfnWMYB3FOT9T0KmpiCQCE+f/XzAF9x/mR2qZpO nKzFgYPME2QJoOIpOykcyOnOSR4MU2Vad6tD4X6b/fhIiN2xv4lofB4dyXhG/iApB8mC4rGGb yss2envwFEMqT8uISQGB4lUzQycBtdLeyIOjzzdhf/4DUEGJlwLMdJDYI2FI2TrSVmljei9pR TN/3xCx4QD04LXJXuL22xw5B2aZxygQRc3iRsM8CCM9QUaeAcOMCAVGeKuyvlThMif6Zmg8bW qM8gm/ix4cGAQbGd3leDJx/GFQwLvT/A/QQ5XClrZNnz3KMjfbMA9MZ4VaC4w/1ftFSleOW3+ j+9q9Y5B/ZlVAJO6eYD4zPQ6mDDhkqIx4N80hBb7mcH2K5UdTK0O417JWg1Ft2LT2YEUJWnHw IO6oTU+OrsvGokAMOMiUkgBH3lIoqXM0nVNBvev8/gR3NbjQNLBbxkAx8PYbHVEMjzyU8ffGW +CW/bmz1EdZwA4xX448f66pXmyh8jnO1p7W5aVL7Ki+SqWRymv+kaG//4+L6nSAwtsVazEM26 3PZ9vqp0kIOMKDrhnmH+IdoKWKJtC5jDqK2GHgwnJN8hqUcXaHugTp/r4dYqoEsyR+HWqjy0c 9wRGi1/GiNSiNM1A/nBNv8+ZtoyBy3al3i1nZXbRCzMnBFlsUgY3pA0JCheDRciu02M2KrMs4 wCnPr7piqFIJ1ibBTlfcyVgCaVwxFRK8Sk50jNm+p8IzegwrxwwstwOmzTct2fre+LkCVpWh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245483 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 at 8:14 PM > From: "Po Lu" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: uzibalqa@proton.me, "Eli Zaretskii" , psainty@orcon.ne= t.nz, 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com > Subject: Re: bug#58459: Getting a fresh emacs session with no customisat= ion > > Christopher Dimech writes: > > > The code to interface Emacs to X-based GUIs needs rewriting by an > > expert, and has needed it for decades. > > Such a hypothetical rewrite (who wants to rewrite the 100,000-odd lines > of code that are needed to work with modern X systems?) will probably > not happen, given the amount of manpower we currently have at hand. > Even if it does, it will not affect whether or not Emacs understands X > resources. The same conditions occur within the scientific community. Almost nobody is willing to perform serious work. For instance, many things considered modern today, if you look under the hood, you will find everyth= ing is basically a wrapper around fortran work from the 60s. Not much innovat= ion or scientific value since then. Most work is cosmetic and mainly for ente= rtainment. The 60s and 70s were much more productive. Have organised quite a few projects where the path was to rewrite. But th= is does not really fit in well these days, so unless things are marshaled by appro= priate individuals, it will continue be to as you say. > > Until it gets that rewrite, changes in it are likely to break > > something. > > This was almost certainly taken out of context. >