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Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:36:43 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <83o7ufafow.fsf@gnu.org> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:mP8AMj2s7IgRBcduT4PujHo6Lkhkf7oNJ6kVVmSrENgMZ7FHCOp3V4OWGl6uhO6erBdgV K58IGSLQJ94QpdgVqqUSTO6sdhGMmu8kDKGCbjYwj/7JJCUqaPc/GkxNIO2ZOLeupiVmO6TlTznU gPuFQG9ZZeoXqfJNkLSAFB74JTFl/DtOTxroi2PL52NCzOoQBmeV7AkmJZxnNSDJPNis8ZtwbGaD 4hpgzSmTLnDacK6WZrcnPH+UYeJd3PzuC4787umbrLLPmyyXSaOQs2gnb7WvZbl3GO55bzPb8U5G RU= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:KEbc5VhNZVo=:HYwKCj3xELmCbLGnsXv7vW H3JSpgCBTbz5oDY4j2pBD5Du8fFf3Nx4IUfotAo1XesK1g1r1oDST0QlT1K7LYifi5YTBzMaE aL0wa4DAPCFY5F+dwuCaN8P8oOC1leh8ys8F6eYlk2TBD47+4w+3xk+GT1MX7q6TJafdbgewn G7/vXixHGECaZ6aXW8+A+3GtVdMt+ZjNQmzOfJ6kEnsk0n74YHAxxcUJffKpUHKTJQMdXW2Vk IovQNcW4bLJg0BfY2Xi4+H3g1VR0pA2mLsnHhl8Um+K75dgnEJoRLWh8ZqMP5Z9DcDcaHjVg9 W0ShiUefyvvtEgoHvWjcHAIY4EVZDzdtaONLTe3JMNZ5onuvhshG7ZmSim/Kk4L8rdXeHQzn6 b+FJLntry//QJAcNWPg3mxWmVaR3whEcmJGMuaGUB+MuutvM+CdiaRI5zftz5QwsMLMk2YRgn Gmsg2fWbE5dbhnpV5WkKjCCmd9Uky6cwUoBjruMWZjpkP31CwNDwwgSyo8kUFioaTNc/ARIYL quIAas4lhDNMIoNUR+lD9pB/rQ8y9n0HhAwIJPoyyc59ZfDlEfFKLptv/eTdliJjC/fGg7lLs 3GfeGT4mcrfrufZgo5Q/rGj59Y46I/j8JWBJHSdC+x/IZRT124LzYAV7ZlhQ6EZ4xXyrxDvnW VkFhu51Xcgop2m4yZ4gRb/ldTtFkn5MU3DN0DVXbOY9LrzlNlhPXGgGldVKJIUc9hd6l1R2MP 4zJfAVmpQVKjWCvzFWYCJg25IKzbICLCzkljNB08V6g2LH2KmTZtSPahay72ZdNrIkx2CGG9 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245332 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:47 AM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: "uzibalqa" > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, psainty@orcon.net.nz, 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, ste= fankangas@gmail.com > Subject: bug#58459: Getting a fresh emacs session with no customisation > > > Cc: Phil Sainty , 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, > > Stefan Kangas > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:09:02 +0000 > > From: uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > > > Emacs should take the user's setting in the init file rather than over= ride them > > with bullshit that you reckon has authority. > > Language! > > And X resources are as much user settings as what the user sets on the > init files. So Emacs cannot but obey them. It is user's > responsibility to set up his/her settings according to his/her > preferences. The user makes a good point. When a user want emacs to obey x-resources, the user specify the x-resources in their init file. Rather than obey th= em when a user did not specifically ask for that to happen. Vanilla Emacs sh= ould load modus-themes, then users can change that if they do not like the them= e. >