From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57481: elisp code utilising derived-mode-parent Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 14:46:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31221"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 57481@debbugs.gnu.org To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 30 14:47:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oT0eW-0007te-4m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2022 14:47:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40642 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oT0eU-0007yY-Un for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Then the information can only be traced at run-time. Could things get loa= ded if needed without having this requirement done by users?