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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 57481@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57481: elisp code utilising derived-mode-parent
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:24:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-177ab56d-9d02-4b88-b208-11ab2362256a-1661927043715@3c-app-mailcom-bs01> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ae78bcc9c80b102389522e89f7fa644@webmail.orcon.net.nz>


> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 10:07 AM
> From: "Phil Sainty" <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>, 57481@debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#57481: elisp code utilising derived-mode-parent
>
> On 2022-08-31 01:16, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > It could find things through and do what it has to do,
> > without requirements for user mode loading.
>
> Except that what it needs to do is load the mode.
>
> If you're now saying that you're actually happy for the mode
> to be loaded just so long as the user doesn't have to do it
> themselves, then you can do that for autoloaded modes.
> Check autoloadp and, if non-nil, call autoload-do-load.

It has been a misinterpretation.  Not-loading was a reference to
make the loading requirement fall upon the user.  Unless the
user has already loaded it or was loaded it for whatever task
user is doing, then I can load the mode appropriately when the
user calls the function.

> For modes which are neither loaded nor known as autoloads,
> Emacs doesn't even know they exist, let alone how to tell
> you what they derive from.

Can scrutinise that some other time.






  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-30  5:44 bug#57481: elisp code utilising derived-mode-parent Christopher Dimech
2022-08-30  6:37 ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-30 11:33   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-08-30 12:02     ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-30 12:08   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-08-30 12:38     ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-30 12:46       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-08-30 13:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30 13:16         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-08-30 22:07           ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-31  6:24             ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2022-08-31 11:31   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-08-30 10:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-30 11:48   ` Christopher Dimech

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