From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26102: movemail can't connect mail server Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:15:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <76a96737-f780-00a2-9fd4-70c0e95f0101@cs.ucla.edu> <8360ja1ldi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489601869 10392 195.159.176.226 (15 Mar 2017 18:17:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:17:49 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: Paul Eggert , 26102@debbugs.gnu.org, hengaini2055@qq.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 15 19:17:40 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coDUD-0000cY-JG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:17:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38923 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coDUJ-0004Xu-OR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:17:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coDTw-0004NP-9I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:17:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coDTq-0007a6-F1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coDTq-0007Zz-Bk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coDTq-0002cJ-6c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:17:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26102 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26102-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26102.148960179410013 (code B ref 26102); Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26102) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2017 18:16:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57449 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coDTO-0002bR-61 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:16:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38284) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coDTM-0002bC-1v for 26102@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:16:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coDTG-0007Fz-09 for 26102@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:16:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coDSg-00072I-Vh; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:15:51 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1coDSe-0005WS-Vx; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:15:49 -0400 X-Spook: Nigeria Albanian warfare constitution Chemical tempest X-Ran: `taVK`D&>!\1_>!{m_Z>YXaR0TD6EdvFXPG9ZkVI:KN62Czdz]\g$6O;hY>W.}nLhLp\e! X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <8360ja1ldi.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:48:57 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130622 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> How about if we change Emacs so that it relies on GNU Mailutils >> movemail, instead of installing its own movemail? > > I don't understand what that means in practice. We already support > GNU Mailutils, and its movemail is even described in the manual. I assume it means stop distributing our own partial movemail, and require people who want to use Emacs for mail in this way to install the superior version from GNU Mailutils. I support this proposal. I think it is good general practice to reduce the number of things that need to be maintained in Emacs.