From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9336: 24.0.50; No way to input character #xbb4 using ta-itrans Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:46:31 +0900 Message-ID: References: <81aab2socv.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317260835 7481 80.91.229.12 (29 Sep 2011 01:47:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 01:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9336@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 29 03:47:11 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R95iQ-00076e-Kq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:47:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52027 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R95iQ-0006es-65 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:47:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35205) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R95iM-0006em-Vv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:47:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R95iL-0005Jj-Kx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R95iL-0005Jd-Fk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R95jG-0005Tw-Pq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:48:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 01:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9336 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9336-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9336.131726085821036 (code B ref 9336); Thu, 29 Sep 2011 01:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9336) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2011 01:47:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R95ir-0005TF-6d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:47:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R95in-0005T4-0c for 9336@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p8T1kWA2016296; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:46:32 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p8T1kWjN001169; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:46:32 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p8T1kVa8019664; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:46:31 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) In-Reply-To: <814nzwom7o.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Jambunathan K on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:30:59 +0530) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:48:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51971 Archived-At: In article <814nzwom7o.fsf@gmail.com>, Jambunathan K writes: > > I think we have not yet settled this issue: > > "z" or "zh" for =E0=AE=B4 > My recommendation is that we don't make a one-off change.=20 > I am largely OK with `z' and `J' offered by you primarily because I see > that entry listed in the table linked below > http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/html/tamil/node5.html [1] > I see that ta-itrans mappings in Emacs is largely in agreement with the > mappings in the above table save for few characters [2]. So my vote is > for aligning Emacs's table with AC's ITRANS tables. I concur with > Vijay's comment that the choices made in AC's table are less than > perfect [3]. > My little research, suggests that that there are multiple contemporary > and competing implementations for ta-itrans. Under these circumstances, > it is important that the Emacs' implementation stick to just a single > system. It would be wonderful if we could get in touch with the original > author of ta-itrans and understand the source of Emacs's mappings. > When time permits, I will spend some time looking at some authoritative > websites and try to form an opinion [4]. Ok, I agree. So, I'll close this bug. >>> > That's strange. My Tamil Lohit font is Version 2.4.4 (older >>> > than yours), and it displays the line for #0BB6 correctly. > > >>> Do you see heart-shaped strcutures in that line much similar to what you >>> see in ta-itrans-1.png that I attached earlier? > > > > No, I attach my image file. I think that heart-shaped glyph > > is actually U+25CC (DOTTED CIRCLE) used to display an > > isolated combining character. Which version of m17n-db are > > you using? > I am on Windows XP. So I believe the equivalent of m17n-db is > uniscribe.=20 > For the sake of record, the following messages suggest that #0BB6 is not > properly rendered on Windows XP. It is apparently fixed on Windows > Vista. > http://unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2007-m07/0004.html > http://unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2007-m07/0005.html Thank you for the investigation. So, this is not an Emacs bug. > [3] Emacs being customizable, I hope it allows for users to tweak the > stock ITRANS table to suit his taste. For example, it should be possible > for one to create custom ITRANS table based on the table at the bottom > of this page. Ok, I'll put it in my todo list, but at the moment, the priority is low. And I think it requires considerable time/work. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org