From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13699: 24.2.93; multiple defcustoms for one variable Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a9r9s3ua.fsf@lukas.physics.niu.edu> <20762.52990.622931.236174@lukas.physics.niu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360713279 27041 80.91.229.3 (12 Feb 2013 23:54:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13699@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Roland Winkler" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 13 00:55:01 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U5Pgi-0007sT-1m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:55:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43549 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5PgO-0007PZ-OD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39718) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5PgM-0007PS-Kh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5PgI-0003Y6-O3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:38 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5PgI-0003Xz-LK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5Pgk-0005Uo-1H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:55:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13699 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 13699-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13699.136071328221084 (code B ref 13699); Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13699) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2013 23:54:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52785 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5PgQ-0005U1-30 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51380) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5PgO-0005Ts-AD for 13699@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5Pfu-0002x0-0i; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:10 -0500 X-Spook: SCUD missile Arnett Firefly Hamas STARLAN UFO propaganda X-Ran: liRY|W>dAC[zy=&;3~;hkK{CVXm=;LLc8]HXkmv~\>Da,@[CgG X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <20762.52990.622931.236174@lukas.physics.niu.edu> (Roland Winkler's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:23:42 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71126 Archived-At: "Roland Winkler" wrote: > On Tue Feb 12 2013 Glenn Morris wrote: >> Multiple defcustoms (or defvars) for the same variable are bugs, > > Sure! -- But debugging such a situation is currently more difficult > than it could be. That's really the point I wanted to make. It is many, many times more likely that a package will mistakenly change the value of a variable with setq than with defcustom.