* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
@ 2023-01-16 13:46 Eason Huang
2023-01-16 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eason Huang @ 2023-01-16 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 60860
Hi Emacs dev team,
I tried to set save-silently to t, but the saving file message will
still show on echo area, but it disappear immediately.
Steps to reproduce:
1. emacs -Q to launch Emacs
2. eval (setq save-silently t)
3. C-x, C-f open any file and edit the file
4. C-x, C-s save the file
Now you will see the message showing in the echo area in a short time
--
Eason Huang
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* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-01-16 13:46 bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files Eason Huang
@ 2023-01-16 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 15:29 ` Eason Huang
2023-01-16 17:37 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-01-16 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eason Huang; +Cc: 60860
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 21:46:24 +0800
> From: From: Eason Huang <aqua0210@foxmail.com>
>
> Hi Emacs dev team,
>
> I tried to set save-silently to t, but the saving file message will
> still show on echo area, but it disappear immediately.
>
> Steps to reproduce:
>
> 1. emacs -Q to launch Emacs
> 2. eval (setq save-silently t)
> 3. C-x, C-f open any file and edit the file
> 4. C-x, C-s save the file
> Now you will see the message showing in the echo area in a short time
This is macOS specific, I think, due to differences in how redisplay
works on darwin. I don't see this on GNU/Linux and on MS-Windows. So
it looks like the implementation does what it's supposed to do, and
unless someone has ideas how to improve the result on macOS, I think
we should close this bug as wontfix.
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* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-01-16 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-01-16 15:29 ` Eason Huang
2023-01-16 17:37 ` Juri Linkov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eason Huang @ 2023-01-16 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 60860
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 21:46:24 +0800
>> From: From: Eason Huang <aqua0210@foxmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Emacs dev team,
>>
>> I tried to set save-silently to t, but the saving file message will
>> still show on echo area, but it disappear immediately.
>>
>> Steps to reproduce:
>>
>> 1. emacs -Q to launch Emacs
>> 2. eval (setq save-silently t)
>> 3. C-x, C-f open any file and edit the file
>> 4. C-x, C-s save the file
>> Now you will see the message showing in the echo area in a short time
>
> This is macOS specific, I think, due to differences in how redisplay
> works on darwin. I don't see this on GNU/Linux and on MS-Windows. So
> it looks like the implementation does what it's supposed to do, and
> unless someone has ideas how to improve the result on macOS, I think
> we should close this bug as wontfix.
>
Hi Eli,
You are right, it macOS specific, I also can't reproduce it on Windows
10 with Emacs 29.
--
Eason Huang
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* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-01-16 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 15:29 ` Eason Huang
@ 2023-01-16 17:37 ` Juri Linkov
2023-03-31 15:30 ` Eason Huang
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2023-01-16 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Eason Huang, 60860
>> I tried to set save-silently to t, but the saving file message will
>> still show on echo area, but it disappear immediately.
>>
>> Steps to reproduce:
>>
>> 1. emacs -Q to launch Emacs
>> 2. eval (setq save-silently t)
>> 3. C-x, C-f open any file and edit the file
>> 4. C-x, C-s save the file
>> Now you will see the message showing in the echo area in a short time
>
> This is macOS specific, I think, due to differences in how redisplay
> works on darwin. I don't see this on GNU/Linux and on MS-Windows. So
> it looks like the implementation does what it's supposed to do, and
> unless someone has ideas how to improve the result on macOS, I think
> we should close this bug as wontfix.
To do the same, in Emacs 29 it's possible to add all these strings
like "Saving file..." to 'inhibit-message-regexps'.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-01-16 17:37 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2023-03-31 15:30 ` Eason Huang
2023-03-31 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 16:03 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eason Huang @ 2023-03-31 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 60860
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>>> I tried to set save-silently to t, but the saving file message will
>>> still show on echo area, but it disappear immediately.
>>>
>>> Steps to reproduce:
>>>
>>> 1. emacs -Q to launch Emacs
>>> 2. eval (setq save-silently t)
>>> 3. C-x, C-f open any file and edit the file
>>> 4. C-x, C-s save the file
>>> Now you will see the message showing in the echo area in a short time
>>
>> This is macOS specific, I think, due to differences in how redisplay
>> works on darwin. I don't see this on GNU/Linux and on MS-Windows. So
>> it looks like the implementation does what it's supposed to do, and
>> unless someone has ideas how to improve the result on macOS, I think
>> we should close this bug as wontfix.
>
> To do the same, in Emacs 29 it's possible to add all these strings
> like "Saving file..." to 'inhibit-message-regexps'.
>
Hi Juri,
Thanks for your advice.
I tried to set (setq inhibit-message-regexps "^Saving"), but the message
in acho area still exist when saving file.
@Eli, I aslo tried Emacs 28.2, (setq save-silently t) works as
expected.
--
Eason Huang
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* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-03-31 15:30 ` Eason Huang
@ 2023-03-31 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 16:12 ` Eason Huang
2023-03-31 16:03 ` Juri Linkov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-31 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eason Huang; +Cc: 60860, juri
> From: Eason Huang <aqua0210@foxmail.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 60860@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 23:30:48 +0800
>
> @Eli, I aslo tried Emacs 28.2, (setq save-silently t) works as
> expected.
The display code was significantly changed between those two versions,
for reasons much more important than this minor annoyance. I guess a
side effect of those changes is what you see.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-03-31 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-31 16:12 ` Eason Huang
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eason Huang @ 2023-03-31 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 60860, juri
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Eason Huang <aqua0210@foxmail.com>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 60860@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 23:30:48 +0800
>>
>> @Eli, I aslo tried Emacs 28.2, (setq save-silently t) works as
>> expected.
>
> The display code was significantly changed between those two versions,
> for reasons much more important than this minor annoyance. I guess a
> side effect of those changes is what you see.
>
For the peoples who like to use auto-save-visited-mode with 1s interval,
this minor annoyance will become major annoyance.
Hope someone expertise on ns port can fix this issue in Emacs 29 or 30.
My use case is auto-save files with every second of idle time:
```
(setq auto-save-default nil)
(setq create-lockfiles nil)
(setq make-backup-files nil)
(setq auto-save-visited-interval 1)
(auto-save-visited-mode 1)
```
Or, is there any workaround to suspress the message when saving file?
--
Eason Huang
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* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-03-31 15:30 ` Eason Huang
2023-03-31 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-31 16:03 ` Juri Linkov
2023-03-31 16:22 ` Eason Huang
2023-04-01 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2023-03-31 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eason Huang; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 60860
>> To do the same, in Emacs 29 it's possible to add all these strings
>> like "Saving file..." to 'inhibit-message-regexps'.
>
> I tried to set (setq inhibit-message-regexps "^Saving"), but the message
> in acho area still exist when saving file.
Please also customize 'set-message-functions' so that its first element
is 'inhibit-message'. Also 'inhibit-message-regexps' should be a list.
These settings should disable the message:
(setq inhibit-message-regexps '("^Saving"))
(setq set-message-functions '(inhibit-message))
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-03-31 16:03 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2023-03-31 16:22 ` Eason Huang
2023-04-01 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eason Huang @ 2023-03-31 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 60860
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>>> To do the same, in Emacs 29 it's possible to add all these strings
>>> like "Saving file..." to 'inhibit-message-regexps'.
>>
>> I tried to set (setq inhibit-message-regexps "^Saving"), but the message
>> in acho area still exist when saving file.
>
> Please also customize 'set-message-functions' so that its first element
> is 'inhibit-message'. Also 'inhibit-message-regexps' should be a list.
> These settings should disable the message:
>
> (setq inhibit-message-regexps '("^Saving"))
> (setq set-message-functions '(inhibit-message))
>
Great, this setting works as expected:
```
(setq inhibit-message-regexps '("^Saving" "^Wrote"))
(setq set-message-functions '(inhibit-message))
```
--
Eason Huang
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-03-31 16:03 ` Juri Linkov
2023-03-31 16:22 ` Eason Huang
@ 2023-04-01 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 18:30 ` Juri Linkov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-04-01 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: aqua0210, 60860
> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 60860@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 19:03:16 +0300
>
> >> To do the same, in Emacs 29 it's possible to add all these strings
> >> like "Saving file..." to 'inhibit-message-regexps'.
> >
> > I tried to set (setq inhibit-message-regexps "^Saving"), but the message
> > in acho area still exist when saving file.
>
> Please also customize 'set-message-functions' so that its first element
> is 'inhibit-message'. Also 'inhibit-message-regexps' should be a list.
> These settings should disable the message:
>
> (setq inhibit-message-regexps '("^Saving"))
> (setq set-message-functions '(inhibit-message))
Why wasn't any of this documented?..
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* bug#60860: 29.0.60; set save-silently to t can not avoid messages when saving files
2023-04-01 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-04-01 18:30 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2023-04-01 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: aqua0210, 60860
>> >> To do the same, in Emacs 29 it's possible to add all these strings
>> >> like "Saving file..." to 'inhibit-message-regexps'.
>> >
>> > I tried to set (setq inhibit-message-regexps "^Saving"), but the message
>> > in acho area still exist when saving file.
>>
>> Please also customize 'set-message-functions' so that its first element
>> is 'inhibit-message'. Also 'inhibit-message-regexps' should be a list.
>> These settings should disable the message:
>>
>> (setq inhibit-message-regexps '("^Saving"))
>> (setq set-message-functions '(inhibit-message))
>
> Why wasn't any of this documented?..
Sorry, I pushed it without documentation, then later you added +++
and I forgot that it is not documented.
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