bug#5069: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor

bug#5069: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor

[Kevin Ryde]

emacs-lisp-intro.texi under "Free Software and Free Manuals" has a link

    http://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.html#DescriptionsOfGNUDocumentation

but that anchor (and section) seems to have gone away.

I can't tell what it should be now.  The two urefs look like they repeat
each other, I'd be inclined to show a single url without linked text.



In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.5)
 of 2009-09-14 on raven, modified by Debian
configured using `configure  '--build=i486-linux-gnu' '--host=i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/leim' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g' 'CPPFLAGS=''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_AU
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

bug#5069: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor

[Glenn Morris]

Kevin Ryde wrote:

> emacs-lisp-intro.texi under "Free Software and Free Manuals" has a link
>
>     http://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.html#DescriptionsOfGNUDocumentation
>
> but that anchor (and section) seems to have gone away.
>
> I can't tell what it should be now.  The two urefs look like they repeat
> each other, I'd be inclined to show a single url without linked text.

I think shop.fsf.org is the right URL to use these days for all "you
can buy copies of FOO" type messages. It's perhaps worth mentioning
that manuals are not always in print.

bug#5069: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor

[Richard Stallman]

     It's perhaps worth mentioning
    that manuals are not always in print.

It is better not to mention that, because people would be likely not
to even look at the site.

bug#5069: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor

[Glenn Morris]

Richard Stallman wrote:

>      It's perhaps worth mentioning that manuals are not always in
>     print.
>
> It is better not to mention that, because people would be likely not
> to even look at the site.

That seems pessimistic. The reason behind my suggestion was that
out-of-print manuals don't seem to be listed on the site (eg the Elisp
manual), and I think it is confusing to be referred to a web-page and
then find no mention of the thing you came to find.

bug#5069: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor

[Richard Stallman]

    That seems pessimistic. The reason behind my suggestion was that
    out-of-print manuals don't seem to be listed on the site (eg the Elisp
    manual), and I think it is confusing to be referred to a web-page and
    then find no mention of the thing you came to find.

I will ask them to mention something about manuals that are currently
out of print.

bug#5069: marked as done (23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor)

[Emacs bug Tracking System]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 896 bytes --]

Your message dated Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:12:03 -0500
with message-id <wcljhk7nuk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
and subject line Re: bug#5069: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor
has caused the Emacs bug report #5069,
regarding 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor
to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.

(NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this
message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system
misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
immediately.)


-- 
5069: http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=5069
Emacs Bug Tracking System
Contact owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com with problems

[-- Attachment #2: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 3794 bytes --]

From: Kevin Ryde <user42@zip.com.au>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:56:37 +1100
Message-ID: <87d432pdve.fsf@blah.blah>

emacs-lisp-intro.texi under "Free Software and Free Manuals" has a link

    http://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.html#DescriptionsOfGNUDocumentation

but that anchor (and section) seems to have gone away.

I can't tell what it should be now.  The two urefs look like they repeat
each other, I'd be inclined to show a single url without linked text.



In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.5)
 of 2009-09-14 on raven, modified by Debian
configured using `configure  '--build=i486-linux-gnu' '--host=i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/leim' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g' 'CPPFLAGS=''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_AU
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t



[-- Attachment #3: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 1597 bytes --]

From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: 5069-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: Re: bug#5069: 23.1; lispintro manuals for sale url dead anchor
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:12:03 -0500
Message-ID: <wcljhk7nuk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>


Changed url to shop.fsf.org.