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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 62ac5ce2057be1d5e1b2abfa9939ba3b; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 23:43:27 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <98071F94-880A-4617-8733-EC91E2D4E6D4@gmail.com> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:09:27 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:273219 Archived-At: Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > In other words just like now (but better, since hardly any new code > will use dynamic binding). That's a theory, one inconsistent with the results of all other measures to promote lexical binding that we have taken so far. > It depends on how much sympathy you have with people having existing > code written in the old dialect. It could be argued that they should > have converted their code long ago, but that assumes that they know > that they actually have that problem. The mere existence of dynamically bound code is not a problem, and nothing enjoins users to convert their code. This is the sort of fallacious thinking that leads people to propose draconian measures such as the subject of this bug report.