From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12787: Toolbar regression from Emacs 23 to Emacs 24 -- Save As and Help no longer available Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:50:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <30308840.1509334.1351887345968.JavaMail.root@vms170027> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353783033 9596 80.91.229.3 (24 Nov 2012 18:50:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:50:33 +0000 (UTC) To: 12787-done@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 24 19:50:45 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKoO-0006m6-82 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:50:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58214 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKoD-0007E2-DL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:50:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKoA-0007Dg-JR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:50:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKo9-0002xc-Ko for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:50:30 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKo9-0002xW-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:50:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKpe-0002cF-5y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:52:02 -0500 Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 12787 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 12787@debbugs.gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org, jxa127@verizon.net Original-Received: via spool by 12787-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D12787.135378310910029 (code D ref 12787); Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12787-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2012 18:51:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKpP-0002bh-MX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:51:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKpN-0002ba-PD for 12787-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:51:46 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcKnr-0000Xw-QE; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:50:11 -0500 X-Spook: keyhole emc Noriega Nazi subversive red noise INS SHA X-Ran: 5!cz%'V%3|r1\)X'/vIe@BpP8>T:y2,@@.*9`@#T@FA&$mPJD[KwO\*l$?r`['[}(NN^_Q X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:13:14 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67409 Archived-At: Since nobody else has spoken up in favour of bringing these two icons back, I am closing this. Do feel free to reply with more info though. Glenn Morris wrote: > Could you name some applications that have it there by default? > If I start up eg "gedit" it is not there, and I see no way to add it > (I don't normally use gedit though). The gedit toolbar looks much the > same as Emacs 24's. I imagine this consistency with other applications > was the motivation for the changes. > > The "help" button seems pointless to me. It just does exactly the same > as clicking the "help" menu, which is a few pixels away. I don't expect > a significant number of people to have tool-bar on and menu-bar off. > Every other tool-bar button in Emacs 23 is for an action that does not > correspond to simply selecting a top-level menu.