From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12467: 24.1; customization initialization confusing Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:32:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347996770 30182 80.91.229.3 (18 Sep 2012 19:32:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:32:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12467@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Horn Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 18 21:32:54 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3XQ-00088Q-RC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:32:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44425 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3XM-0007F3-KN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:32:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33413) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3XG-0007E5-D9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:32:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3XF-0001oY-Br for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:32:42 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3XF-0001oU-8Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:32:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3YY-0007Pa-DI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12467 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12467-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12467.134799683628462 (code B ref 12467); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12467) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2012 19:33:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42252 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3YR-0007P0-NM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:33:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:38685) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3YO-0007Om-Or for 12467@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:33:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TE3X4-0007cb-Gb; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:32:30 -0400 X-Spook: World Trade Center [Hello to all my friends and fans in X-Ran: (Z>0VT~ZT){N^blE8wpxF1>J9i]:p(6TN$UfJBb[@2^9I/n,1[+b;>py@.WNh^Asw8rX}- X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:25:51 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64573 Archived-At: BTW, here is the relevant quote from the elisp manual (it's not really relevant for the Emacs manual IMO): -- Function: custom-set-variables &rest args This function installs the variable customizations specified by ARGS. Each argument in ARGS should have the form (VAR EXPRESSION [NOW [REQUEST [COMMENT]]]) VAR is a variable name (a symbol), and EXPRESSION is an expression which evaluates to the desired customized value. If the `defcustom' form for VAR has been evaluated prior to this `custom-set-variables' call, EXPRESSION is immediately evaluated, and the variable's value is set to the result. Otherwise, EXPRESSION is stored into the variable's `saved-value' property, to be evaluated when the relevant `defcustom' is called (usually ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ when the library defining that variable is loaded into Emacs). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^