From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8680: releases Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:12:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <625A3C9C-ACF2-42A0-B4E8-8ABDDA060131@pacbell.net> <87ob4k3lny.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387473188 30647 80.91.229.3 (19 Dec 2013 17:13:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8680@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 19 18:13:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9s-0006Se-27 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:13:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45457 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9r-0000Mm-Em for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:13:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52299) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9n-0000KZ-2H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:13:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9i-0007YG-IB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:13:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44826) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9i-0007YC-Es for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9h-0004HG-Lg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:13:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8680 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 8680-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8680.138747318016435 (code B ref 8680); Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8680) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2013 17:13:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58845 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9f-0004H0-JM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:12:59 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9e-0004Gt-0f for 8680@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:12:58 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vth9c-0000um-89; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:12:56 -0500 X-Spook: genetic Taiwan SDI John Kerry Compsec Etacs Iran X-Ran: Ke}b\1d._\sS_5I}l$,CBY:?U<8@^sW{X/eM'/m;KmFYc,B_(^At3iRE[`C&hB:&o0pZ*& X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:43:48 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82228 Archived-At: (A 2 year-old archived bug about Mac keyboards isn't the best place for this discussion, but I'm not going to bother to move it.) Stefan Monnier wrote: > I wanted to bring this up to 2 releases per year, but noone had the > energy to take care of the release management That's not how I recall it. IIRC, you wanted to freeze 24.4 ~ six weeks after 24.3 was released. This would have left very little time for people who had been concentrating on the release to develop any new features. > BTW: since we're about to freeze and start a new pretest phase, we're > looking for a volunteer to take care of rolling the pretests. Oh, are you? I would have been happy to do it again. But I see Chong Yidong is back (yay!), so if he wants to do it; or if someone else wants to have a go, it's fine by me. > Also, we'd welcome some help to update the manuals (most urgently, to > integrate all the changes mentioned in NEWS into the manuals). That, of course, is the hard part. Traditionally this large burden has fallen on a tiny number of people. If suddenly lots of people are going to start doing this, of course you can crank out more frequent releases.