From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4789: use bootstrap-emacs to build emacs/leim directory, load emacs/leim/leim-list.el to loadup.el Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:34:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200911061649.nA6GnhUq027369@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <55y6026rpt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <79pql88pwu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <7iobr1s76d.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83iph98hv8.fsf@gnu.org> <83ehrx8fxp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1333989317 6189 80.91.229.3 (9 Apr 2012 16:35:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4789@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 09 18:35:16 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHYg-0002WX-0E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:35:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54420 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHYf-0003eJ-5T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46451) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHYZ-0003UD-MJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHYY-0004bm-0N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50489) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHYX-0004al-Tk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:35:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHZR-0004jS-TM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4789 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 4789-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4789.133398930918119 (code B ref 4789); Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4789) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Apr 2012 16:35:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47027 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHYa-0004iB-QQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:35:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:43554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHYZ-0004i5-GT for 4789@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHHXe-00011Y-4K; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:34:10 -0400 X-Spook: United Nations Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Crypto AG spies BCCI X-Ran: 8LrLjylBb}o;__y}=af<~fs!z1Z`Ia0V,]GC/34Y3y6'{$JYrH1`uC(:f(o]wx;wjH,;|. X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <83ehrx8fxp.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:31:14 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:58646 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > But you need to do this again whenever Emacs is rebuilt, not just at > bootstrap time. Right? Are you relying on the fact that on Posix > hosts bootstrap-emacs and emacs are (currently) the same executable, > and that bootstrap-emacs is generated even when no bootstrap is > necessary, like when building a released tarball? Indeed I need to think about this more... My initial thought is that it should be treated like loaddefs.el (and finder-inf.el, cus-load.el, etc). All these are pre-built in the release tarfile, so maybe leim-list.el should be too. Now that I think about it, it's suprising that it isn't already. > So you just need _any_ emacs executable capable of code that generates > leim-list.el, is that right? Right. But when bootstrapping on MS Windows, there must still be two versions of the emacs binary, right? One that is called early on and loads uncompiled Lisp files (whether or not it is called "bootstrap-emacs"), and is used to generate the compiled Lisp files that are loaded by the final, "proper" Emacs? If so, I mean the first one.