From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18967: Tramp disables important SSH security features Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:04:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <545AC52C.1090807@dancol.org> <874muczg8b.fsf@lifelogs.com> <545BA8B0.8060107@dancol.org> <87wq77igvj.fsf@gmx.de> <871sxcbpiw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8737hs5iq1.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481659510 26863 195.159.176.226 (13 Dec 2016 20:05:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 20:05:10 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: 18967@debbugs.gnu.org, Ted Zlatanov , Stefan Monnier To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 13 21:05:06 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJw-0006DX-Ct for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 21:05:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40368 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtK0-0006k3-O1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:05:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJu-0006jy-Ts for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:05:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJu-0000H7-6O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:05:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJu-0000H3-3P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:05:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJt-00078V-Rw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:05:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 20:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18967 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: security Original-Received: via spool by 18967-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18967.148165949827418 (code B ref 18967); Tue, 13 Dec 2016 20:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18967) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2016 20:04:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41065 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJp-00078A-TD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:04:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJn-00077y-Sk for 18967@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:04:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJh-0000D8-Np for 18967@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:04:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJe-0000CM-Ln; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:04:46 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cGtJd-0004GH-Tm; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:04:46 -0500 X-Spook: Burst condor Bletchley Park 22nd SAS Nerve agent Mysql X-Ran: %1(U\o&pAkIgzX8eryi_}KN4[RhPmNUq5[LmA,Pu!;*U8Ds5wUUT8GN(F~:DbV>tw~+c3H X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <8737hs5iq1.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:36:06 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:127007 Archived-At: How about ssh -o BatchMode=yes ? IIUC, this causes ssh to fail with an error, instead of eg asking "Are you sure you want to continue connecting" and waiting forever. (But it also seems to me that it is not Tramp's job to work around difficulties a user might be having with SSH, and that eg an occasional hang is preferable to changing things to be less secure that SSH's default).