From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25552: 26.0.50; load cl unintendedly Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:03:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87vasuow8m.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <29437.1486087555@alto> <57610.1486103457@olgas.newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1486346653 29300 195.159.176.226 (6 Feb 2017 02:04:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 02:04:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: yamaoka@jpl.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, Jeffrey Honig , 25552@debbugs.gnu.org, Mike Kupfer To: Bill Wohler Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 06 03:04:09 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caYf2-0007V0-Md for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 03:04:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45219 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1caYf8-0005c9-Bj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:04:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1caYf0-0005c3-Hh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1caYew-0006An-9p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:04:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58839) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1caYew-0006Aj-7a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:04:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caYev-0003dp-Rk; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:04:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 02:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25552 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,mh-e X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25552-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25552.148634663813987 (code B ref 25552); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 02:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2017 02:03:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57037 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caYer-0003dW-Nd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:03:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caYeq-0003dL-D6 for 25552@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:03:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1caYek-0006A2-M5 for 25552@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:03:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41786) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1caYeb-00069T-8D; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:03:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1caYea-00008M-IY; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:03:40 -0500 X-Spook: White House Fort Hancock Guantanamo Avalanche CNCIS H1N1 X-Ran: &^wcfYjBr+pDQX[y#qb]V)q#;^.nl!LN(U-%w]9\,8f_l/#M*>Rg/^V+IXo{v^cTmfnG"; X-Hue: brightblack X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <57610.1486103457@olgas.newt.com> (Bill Wohler's message of "Thu, 02 Feb 2017 22:30:57 -0800") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:129019 Archived-At: Bill Wohler wrote: > I don't have any objections if it runs on all supported versions of > Emacs that we support (a conversation we should probably have again > since we've had an Emacs release). > > I'm happy to say we support the version of Emacs in Debian stable, which > is 24 and is what I'm running. I'll test the patch this weekend and reply. I see that Debian stable ships Emacs 24.4, which includes cl-lib (so does 24.3, which is 4 years old). It's fine to load cl-lib at runtime. So if you were willing to make a larger change (cl to cl-lib), you can have code which is simpler going forwards (no need for mh-require-cl etc). cl-lib is also available from elpa.gnu.org for Emacs older than 24.3. Separate from the above: i) I think all uses of mh-require should be placed within eval-and-compile (the compiler does this automatically for plain "require", but does not know to do it for mh-require). ii) If you make that defun-mh change, I'm guessing there will no longer be a need for mh-gnus to be no-byte-compile.