From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64960: Documentation for copy-sequence Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 00:43:49 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83ila03jnr.fsf@gnu.org> <877cqgwt4q.fsf@web.de> <87fs53bek7.fsf@web.de> <87bkfbr2hz.fsf@web.de> <87v8dhp4pu.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: uzibalqa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2685"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 64960@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 15 02:45:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qViBe-0000TE-GW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2023 02:45:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qViBH-0003M2-Mw; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qViBC-0003Lj-6a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qViBB-00062i-TX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:45:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qViBB-0008JA-Nk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:45:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: uzibalqa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 00:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64960 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64960-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64960.169206024931862 (code B ref 64960); Tue, 15 Aug 2023 00:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64960) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2023 00:44:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34628 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qViAK-0008Hp-RE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40135.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.135]:61335) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qViAJ-0008HS-8c for 64960@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:44:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1692060240; x=1692319440; bh=5WWKb6MhThWpl6NdaTWg21J5qpCN7x6Q3knCBPwO3kM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=Taqvw3IWkmIeTvzeDcjwlNLL9MTq0cGlMVaydS4NmI966XrlIli+AUilYG5DR7H6r lBS5X40OxXWMxzmvVhLmLpiF0tLLndWDHohhtjvONkuGFq1hHA12ZxcfPqKzi1QBu9 a5FfvHL9OwJGSNhzjToWiQBqb27Xx9pLdF3VdisMokuMqk8cGD5DiFpSt5jNhP/i1J 88bHZRzOGps+++791cgpDyTsTj2C59t8pyjnE+G4SNEAGz1sogs3TOMnsjTHWdtOvy ncWVm91ZPBGh44yYZxjeZM8Y+h7yOglZZ7OkRTIVOOncASkficenGF5NOifM6mIxQn 2xpUHOYHqnh5g== In-Reply-To: <87v8dhp4pu.fsf@web.de> Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267449 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Tuesday, August 15th, 2023 at 11:46 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me writes: >=20 > > Although I understand what it does, I om not sure if it would benefit > > about some of the details we discussed. >=20 >=20 > What in particular? A lot of the stuff discussed is a direct > consequence of the copy being a new sequence object whose elements have > not been copied. The manual tries to describe some implications. >=20 > Or should we try to find a better wording (to make more clear that > "modify" doesn't mean "replace") - for what part(s)? What concretely > would have helped you to understand that part of the manual better? I found the following is mostly targeted at experienced users. "The elements of a list, vector or record are not copied; they are shared with the original." =20 Adding additional wording that it means that not everything is actually cop= ied.=20 Some aspects are actually reference values. Meaning that if you change the copied sequence, you could inadvertently change the original sequence. > What parts of the documentation have you read so far? >=20 >=20 > Thx, >=20 > Michael. >